You couldn't be more wrong. Your argument implies that if AM can pay their pilots less and earn money on routes which would be unprofitable for DAL then they may as well do it. By that same argument, why not let AM do all the flying between Mexico and the US? They provide a similar product for XX% less labor costs. We could move our planes to other more profitable routes and stagnate while AM and our competitors grow. You badly missed the mark on this one.

You went directly a worst case made up scenario. It still has to be verified but JG's letter stated AeroMexico flying dropped double to Delta. Would you rather Delta keep flying to CUN and SJD rather than more profitable flying in the Caribbean in this situation?

Again, I am a big picture guy. I'm all for a mathematical solution that creates a metric and language that while allowing the company to shift flying to the best economical places also allows equitable share of growth.

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Why is management controlling the communications on this? Running the OAG data and publishing the chart to the Delta pilots would take all of 15 minutes if the MEC Chairman directed it.

Yet, this MEC has not reported routine data to the Delta pilots. I am still trying to see last year's 1 D 9. data that the MEC has had since late June.

What is our MEC doing and why are we being kept in the dark?

Pilots are BIG picture and SMALL picture folks. Every pilot job, every captain seat, every new hire is precious.

If management is violating our scope, it means our scope lines are effectively catching them and being in compliance would be acretive to our pilot list.

We have a Global JV already in the Virgin Atlantic Agreement. Not sure what you think we would be gaining by giving up our regional protections.

Keep in mind that Mexico may well collapse as a tourist market if they don’t get a handle on the crime issue. Years ago Puerto Vallarta and Acapulco were huge tourist draws. Not so much today. The country faces a true war with the drug lords and they are losing. The levels of violence are rapidly increasing even in former safe areas.

Again.... how does AM drop double the flying yet WE still fell below the contract compliance levels? The math simply doesn’t make sense. If you believe they are telling you the truth then you are being naive at best... perhaps ignorant.

Either way, there are only two paths forward

1. LOA to come a mutual solution

2. Grieve it

Overall this is eerily similar to the AF/KLM Scope violation where Europe's economy collapsed, Delta shifted flying to LA and SA rather than take a loss, and asked where to send the check. (Which also resulted in more PS)

I may be naive and ignorant but I read the communication as AM has now dropped double the routes. That was the correction after the damage was done

What is the incentive for an LOA? Why just give up theater flying protections for a global balance when we already have a global balance?

And given the membership ratification requirements, why is our MEC in silent running mode on this? It is coming out

We are probably going to be in grieve it mode due to the simple fact that our MEC has tied it's own hands with the MEMRAT rope. Management is effectively outmaneuvering this process by getting their "transparency" and "eagerness to negotiate" on the record.

Oh and in the middle of all of this, our MEC fires the best scope guy at our disposal (twice), management hires him as a Director at VP Pay. We respond by hiring our fifth new Scope Chairman in two years while renegotiating the most vital and complex part of our PWA.

We are acting like we have absolutely no idea what we are doing. With a subject matter expert on the job for a week, that is not really a surprise, is it? There were excellent choices (not me) in the running; we did not choose any of them because of social media politics is more important to the selection than the product delivered to the Delta pilots.

The only incentive I see for an LOA is an AeroMexico JV agreement that gives the pilots an equitable share of the growth.

We don’t have a global balance. We have a global block hour floor that was set well below the level of operations at the time. Huge difference. In the future we are only protected from retrenchment (assuming they follow the contract) below 2016 set block hours.