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sailingfun 03-25-2019 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by Big E 757 (Post 2789855)
I jump seated on Spirit last week and asked the pilots how their NEO fleet was performing. Was it as efficient as Airbus claimed. He said up until a week and a half ago, their entire NEO fleet was grounded because of a lot of fume events. They grounded the entire fleet but now it’s flying again. I hadn’t heard that before that flight.

I read a article where they quoted Delta as stating we expect a 12% overall increase in fuel efficiency. Max thrust for both the CEO and NEO is the same at 33,000 lbs assuming we ordered the highest power option for both types. I don’t know what we actually ordered.

Delta is also announcing a long-term commitment with Pratt & Whitney for Delta TechOps to be a major maintenance, repair and overhaul provider for the Pure Power PW1100G and PW1500G engines, powering Delta’s A321neo and C Series aircraft. This latest generation family of Pratt & Whitney engines is a major factor in the 12 percent fuel efficiency improvement on a per seat basis Delta expects over classic A321 performance.

asacimesp 03-25-2019 07:13 PM

I have a buddy working over at Spirit and their engine failure/shutdown rates were sky high due to bearing failures. The fix was to increase the oil pressure to the problem bearings.... unfortunately this has caused problems with oil blow-by which is driving the smoke/fume events.

forgot to bid 03-25-2019 07:17 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 2789346)
A320neo orders from wikipedia

China just ordered 290 more 320s today, of various types I guess.

forgot to bid 03-25-2019 07:24 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2789867)
I read a article where they quoted Delta as stating we expect a 12% overall increase in fuel efficiency. Max thrust for both the CEO and NEO is the same at 33,000 lbs assuming we ordered the highest power option for both types. I don’t know what we actually ordered.

Delta is also announcing a long-term commitment with Pratt & Whitney for Delta TechOps to be a major maintenance, repair and overhaul provider for the Pure Power PW1100G and PW1500G engines, powering Delta’s A321neo and C Series aircraft. This latest generation family of Pratt & Whitney engines is a major factor in the 12 percent fuel efficiency improvement on a per seat basis Delta expects over classic A321 performance.

Evidently our exact model is A321neo ACF with PWG1133G-JM. The ACF removes the 2L and R doors and uses overwing exits. Allows for 197 passengers instead of 192ish. 207k lb mtow. Evidently what Hawaiian has engine wise.

Gunfighter 03-25-2019 07:27 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 2790072)
Evidently our exact model is A321neo ACF with PWG1133G-JM. The ACF removes the 2L and R doors and uses overwing exits. Allows for 197 passengers instead of 192ish. 207k lb mtow. Evidently what Hawaiian has engine wise.

Why couldn't they have located an L2 door where jetway drivers aren't likely to hit the wing/engine?

By a show of hands, how many people have had the pleasure of deplaning a 757-200 from the L1 door?

sailingfun 03-26-2019 03:13 AM


Originally Posted by Gunfighter (Post 2790076)
Why couldn't they have located an L2 door where jetway drivers aren't likely to hit the wing/engine?

By a show of hands, how many people have had the pleasure of deplaning a 757-200 from the L1 door?

Frequent fliers love the 757. They don’t have to mix with the poor unwashed masses and can get their highly valued PDB’s undisturbed. I suspect we could come up with a modified or angled jetway for the A321 cheaper than changing the exits.

Herkflyr 03-26-2019 03:19 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2790160)
Frequent fliers love the 757. They don’t have to mix with the poor unwashed masses and can get their highly valued PDB’s undisturbed. I suspect we could come up with a modified or angled jetway for the A321 cheaper than changing the exits.

It would be nice! The lack of a usable 2L door is why I give the 321 an "A-" vs the 757 "A".

It's not just the high flyers either. Catering out of the 1R door while boarding or deplaning from 2L is a good thing also. Bottom line is that we can board and deplane quicker and less stressfully with that setup.

With all the focus on NPS, and the fact that the 321 does so much flying into the BOS, LGA and DCAs of the world, I'm surprised this hasn't been a priority.

sailingfun 03-26-2019 03:20 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 2790072)
Evidently our exact model is A321neo ACF with PWG1133G-JM. The ACF removes the 2L and R doors and uses overwing exits. Allows for 197 passengers instead of 192ish. 207k lb mtow. Evidently what Hawaiian has engine wise.

That is the highest thrust version.

Pogey Bait 03-26-2019 06:30 AM


Originally Posted by asacimesp (Post 2790063)
I have a buddy working over at Spirit and their engine failure/shutdown rates were sky high due to bearing failures. The fix was to increase the oil pressure to the problem bearings.... unfortunately this has caused problems with oil blow-by which is driving the smoke/fume events.

Spirit has the P&W engine option, Delta is getting the CFM LEAP-1A. The CFM has had minor issues compared to the P&W.

Mesabah 03-26-2019 09:27 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2790160)
Frequent fliers love the 757. They don’t have to mix with the poor unwashed masses and can get their highly valued PDB’s undisturbed. I suspect we could come up with a modified or angled jetway for the A321 cheaper than changing the exits.

It seems like the 2nd door is much smaller, or is that just my imagination?


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