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sailingfun 03-26-2019 10:53 AM


Originally Posted by Pogey Bait (Post 2790243)
Spirit has the P&W engine option, Delta is getting the CFM LEAP-1A. The CFM has had minor issues compared to the P&W.

I don’t think this is correct since we are setting up a overhaul facility for the Prats and that was tied into the purchase decision.

Herkflyr 03-26-2019 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 2790363)
It seems like the 2nd door is much smaller, or is that just my imagination?

It is indeed smaller, unlike the 757. Much as I would like to see it, you won't be seeing the 321 2L door used here at DAL. It is for emergency use only.

Mesabah 03-26-2019 12:05 PM


Originally Posted by Herkflyr (Post 2790457)
It is indeed smaller, unlike the 757. Much as I would like to see it, you won't be seeing the 321 2L door used here at DAL. It is for emergency use only.

Maybe that will change for the 321XLR, I'm betting Delta's 100 options will be those.

sailingfun 03-26-2019 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 2790472)
Maybe that will change for the 321XLR, I'm betting Delta's 100 options will be those.

Not very likely. Delta rarely pays for capability they don’t need. At best they might need a dozen of that type in the fleet.

Mesabah 03-26-2019 02:06 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2790480)
Not very likely. Delta rarely pays for capability they don’t need. At best they might need a dozen of that type in the fleet.

How many 75S/P are there in the fleet? A certain percentage of the 763 would also need to be replaced by the XLR. .

sailingfun 03-26-2019 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 2790556)
How many 75S/P are there in the fleet? A certain percentage of the 763 would also need to be replaced by the XLR. .

There are 17 but quite a few are in domestic rotations. A single aisle aircraft is not really compatible with the direction Delta is going internationally and the product they want to offer.

Mesabah 03-26-2019 02:43 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2790574)
There are 17 but quite a few are in domestic rotations. A single aisle aircraft is not really compatible with the direction Delta is going internationally and the product they want to offer.

I don't think they have a choice, the 797 is vaporware now that Rolls backed out. The Ultrafan is the only engine that is usable for that size of airplane. Pratt could do it, but they need to remove the thrust reversers from the GTF, add 10K lbs of power, and a new type of ultra high bypass resin fan with variable pitch to replace the reversers.



My guess is Delta's orders through 2030 are:
100 A225
50-100 addition A321neo/A321XLR
30 A350neo with Ultrafan.

forgot to bid 03-26-2019 02:58 PM


Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 2790363)
It seems like the 2nd door is much smaller, or is that just my imagination?

Okay. I had to look this up several times because I was kind of surprised.

A320 Fleet
Main doors (1LR and Rear LR): 1829x829 mm or 72 x 32

A321
Emergency Exit Doors
2L: Size: 1854 x 762 mm (73.0 x 30.0 in.)
2R, 3LR: Size: 1524 x 762 mm (60.0 x 30.0 in.)

The 2L forward emergency exit door is usable as a normal passenger/crew door

https://photos.flight-report.com/med...8FoQ2Vl3/7.JPG

That would be nice, eh?

757
Book I show says 1L and 2L are 72 x 33.
Doesn’t seem to show it in mm. Odd. ;)

Funk 03-26-2019 03:43 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 2790597)
Okay. I had to look this up several times because I was kind of surprised.

A320 Fleet
Main doors (1LR and Rear LR): 1829x829 mm or 72 x 32

A321
Emergency Exit Doors
2L: Size: 1854 x 762 mm (73.0 x 30.0 in.)
2R, 3LR: Size: 1524 x 762 mm (60.0 x 30.0 in.)

The 2L forward emergency exit door is usable as a normal passenger/crew door

https://photos.flight-report.com/med...8FoQ2Vl3/7.JPG

That would be nice, eh?

757
Book I show says 1L and 2L are 72 x 33.
Doesn’t seem to show it in mm. Odd. ;)

You get a pass on documenting in metrics if you hail from the country that sent men to the moon.

forgot to bid 03-26-2019 04:39 PM


Originally Posted by Funk (Post 2790632)
You get a pass on documenting in metrics if you hail from the country that sent men to the moon.

HA.

I like what someone said when Trump walked in front of the Queen for a brief moment... don’t worry, he’s got a permission slip signed by Thomas Jefferson and 55 others. :D


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