Contract openers
04-04-2019, 01:46 PM
#31
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Originally Posted by gzsg
I disagree. United has made good progress.
Kirby is in the honeymoon period and their performance is embarrassing at best. Their executives are under huge pressure to improve and that means getting the pilots on board.
IMO United will complete their deal this summer.
Kirby is in the honeymoon period and their performance is embarrassing at best. Their executives are under huge pressure to improve and that means getting the pilots on board.
IMO United will complete their deal this summer.
04-04-2019, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by HTBH
I will be shocked if UAL or AA come anywhere close to a deal prior to us. Several friends at both airlines have told me their negotiation strategy is basically waiting us out and saying “Delta plus a dollar”.
UAL opened last year and are already 2 months past their date (1 Feb I believe)...you really think they won’t ink a deal until after us?
AAL only opened in Jan, so they aren’t too far in front of us, so maybe/maybe not.
04-04-2019, 02:01 PM
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Just wondering what are educated guesses for sticking points in our process that would cause extended delays?
I’m thinking both parties view the fundamental framework as settled science. So it’s more likely an exercise in tweaking?
I’m thinking both parties view the fundamental framework as settled science. So it’s more likely an exercise in tweaking?
04-04-2019, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF
UAL opened last year and are already 2 months past their date (1 Feb I believe)...you really think they won’t ink a deal until after us?
I hear ya. I hope they do. But everyone I know over there says there is no sense of urgency at all and they won't bend on scope an inch.
04-04-2019, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by BobZ
Just wondering what are educated guesses for sticking points in our process that would cause extended delays?
I’m thinking both parties view the fundamental framework as settled science. So it’s more likely an exercise in tweaking?
I’m thinking both parties view the fundamental framework as settled science. So it’s more likely an exercise in tweaking?
IMHO the biggest item will be retirement. Anything that we gain that could entice more guys to retire early will be a non-starter for the company.
After this, scope and work rules that may be perceived as increasing hiring needs.
04-04-2019, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by GuardPolice
IMHO the biggest item will be retirement. Anything that we gain that could entice more guys to retire early will be a non-starter for the company.
04-04-2019, 03:47 PM
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Delta's TA2 opener proposed a 3 year contract with 20/7/7 raises and a host of other large numbers. Same game will likely play out: DALPA comes in sky high, Management lowballs, and stalemate occurs for a while
Personnaly I'm like for minimal improvement to pay above COLA increases with the bulk of focus being on soft pay issues like Retirement, Health insurance, Vacation, Pay banding and DH.
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Personnaly I'm like for minimal improvement to pay above COLA increases with the bulk of focus being on soft pay issues like Retirement, Health insurance, Vacation, Pay banding and DH.
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