I don’t think they can do that if he is full.

 

But he’s not full until the rotation is complete. They just have to keep the assignment under ALV+15. Otherwise he shouldn’t have been assigned the trip.

 

It’s semantics but this is sort of what I was wondering. I’d argue I was full as soon as assigned to that trip that took me above full. (Before I even reported.) Another perspective might say otherwise. I don’t believe the wording in the PWA is specific enough to clarify.


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Where is this codified? I looked around a bit and didn’t find anything that would support this.



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I don’t have PWA references to quote, but reserves don’t have rotation guarantee which means they can be released or rerouted into shorter trips which could prevent a pilot from getting full.


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This right here. If the trip is cut short because of a domicile layover then the person may not reach the full level. Conversely they may be rerouted into higher value days which would cause the trip to crest the full level only to be rerouted again below the level. The full doesn’t get applied until you are released. I don’t know if it codified but that is how it works.

 

I had a three day trip which put me over the top, followed by two more LC days. Release from last day of the rotation was about 2300. If I had waited that long to get FULL placed on my schedule, I would already have been assigned another two-day (before release from the first rotation) and they would have forced me to fly the two day.

Put another way, on the morning of the third and last day of my trip, I would have been assigned another trip, since I still showed as LC. To avoid this, I called late on day 2 and asked for FULL on my schedule, which they did. No problem.

Anyone else had similar scenario? How is it handled? I’d much rather handle it prospectively, rather than have to spend 30 minutes on the phone (while trying to drive home at midnight) explaining why they need to take a trip off my schedule.


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They can’t assign you another rotation that flies after your full regardless of when they put it on your schedule. Simply call and have it removed. If the scheduler says no ask for a supervisor.

 

They could not have forced you to fly the subsequent rotation

 

When I finished up my trip that made me "full", I did my post-trip reserve schedule check only to see a trip on my line for the next day.

Called the company, explained I was "full", and they dropped the trip after putting me on hold for a couple of minutes. No fuss, no muss. Everyone makes mistakes; they were professional about it.