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Old 07-23-2019 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by JamesBond
Global merger. Skyteam.





It's not if... but when.
Your opinion, which IMO, is not in line with reality

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Old 07-23-2019 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by GuardPolice
Someone on FB is claiming RG wants us down to 11000 or fewer pilots. How is that even remotely possible...if it’s true at all?

For a corporation that craves a premium brand image, I’m blown away if they truly feel we can maintain our momentum with 3500 or more fewer pilots. Not even the sodomizer can be that good...


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Thats like 6 years of retirements with zero hiring. No way.
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Old 07-23-2019 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by clear4approach
Thats like 6 years of retirements with zero hiring. No way.
Less with age 70 retirement

Lol.
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Old 07-23-2019 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
There was an 88 FO a couple years ago who made well over 400. Commuted too, and didn't work much harder than the average high ALV lineholder or junior/hammered reserve. Buddy bid drop your whole line with pay, get 3 or 4 regular GS trips. Boom, triple pay while not working any harder than your original schedule.
I see senior FO's on all categories that do very well pay wise and work much less than most Capts do in their category. I see that as being a very appealing lifestyle for some. Why ever upgrade until you can be a senior Capt?
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Old 07-23-2019 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by GuardPolice
Does the PWA specifically allow this, either in published language or lack thereof?


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How do you eat an elephant?

I would look down the road, and apply the same gun that SWA put to the heads of the AirTran guys. At some point there will be a downturn in the economy... poor mouth will be cried... flying shifted to ensure survival.... done. It's a process.

Look at it another way. Do you think the airline industry is in it's final form forever and ever? What do you think is the next step? If it is global consolidation, which do you think will happen: Virgin (for example) gets our pay rates and we get their health bennies? Or will the company (whaever it is called) starts shifting costs to the most cost effective points?

It's mostly a thought exercise at this point, but I would wager that the industry is not in it's final form. Your opinion may differ.
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Old 07-23-2019 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by BobZ
Less with age 70 retirement

Lol.
naaaaaaah I'll bet the numbers would be negligible, especially with all the guys that say they are leaving at 55.
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Old 07-23-2019 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Trip7
Your opinion, which IMO, is not in line with reality

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Bet your career on it Chief. I really don't care. And yes it is just an opinion.
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Old 07-23-2019 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by JamesBond
naaaaaaah I'll bet the numbers would be negligible, especially with all the guys that say they are leaving at 55.
I think the number of guys claiming they'll leave at 55 is akin to those who always make sure you know that "I have a business and this flying gig is just a hobby."

In other words they don't really mean it, but love to hear themselves say it.
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Old 07-23-2019 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by GuardPolice
Someone on FB is claiming RG wants us down to 11000 or fewer pilots. How is that even remotely possible...if it’s true at all?

For a corporation that craves a premium brand image, I’m blown away if they truly feel we can maintain our momentum with 3500 or more fewer pilots. Not even the sodomizer can be that good...


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Someone on Facebook! There is your answer! We might be able to get to 11,000 pilots if we drop 200 aircraft from the fleet.
I am not sure that everyone comprehends that the big credit reduction is simply bringing credit back to 2012 levels and is like a 1.2% reduction. There is no more blood in the turnip!
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Old 07-23-2019 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Herkflyr
I think the number of guys claiming they'll leave at 55 is akin to those who always make sure you know that "I have a business and this flying gig is just a hobby."

In other words they don't really mean it, but love to hear themselves say it.
Yeah, it's an ambitious goal, but life will often get in the way. A good goal to strive for though!
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