Operation is running on red line
09-08-2019 | 08:07 AM
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Some (mostly commuters) like certain 5 day trips. No one likes crappy "optimized" 5 day trips that report super early and release late unless a redeye. That's becoming the 5 day norm now. Why? The relentless clinical attempt to reduce credit by 1 minute by any means necessary. Its been a huge QOL degradation all so someone can hit a bonus target metric.
09-08-2019 | 08:21 AM
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Some (mostly commuters) like certain 5 day trips. No one likes crappy "optimized" 5 day trips that report super early and release late unless a redeye. That's becoming the 5 day norm now. Why? The relentless clinical attempt to reduce credit by 1 minute by any means necessary. Its been a huge QOL degradation all so someone can hit a bonus target metric.
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09-08-2019 | 08:49 AM
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09-08-2019 | 09:02 AM
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I agree, that's miserable. I actually like 5 day trips but that's because basically all of them end very early on the last day, many times with a DH. Do three of those in a month and you've only got to commute 3 times for a decent 78 hours of credit.
09-08-2019 | 09:49 AM
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Even in bases with low commuters no one wants to constantly report at 6AM and release at 11PM but that's how the "optimizer" (bonus generator) drives 1 minute of credit out as its prime directive.
09-08-2019 | 12:16 PM
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I agree...this is unacceptable and another quality of life hit. 5 days blow....especially when they contain red eyes followed by 11 hrs of rest followed by early morning sign ins the last 2 days. Just more proof of how FAR 117 was another mgmt grab that Alpo turned their head and looked the other way. Mitigate fatigue....yeah right. What a joke.
09-08-2019 | 12:19 PM
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Every narrowbody domestic trips of any length are trending heavily like that. CS actually bragged a while ago about how NYC717 got as high as 25% commutability on one end.
Even in bases with low commuters no one wants to constantly report at 6AM and release at 11PM but that's how the "optimizer" (bonus generator) drives 1 minute of credit out as its prime directive.
Even in bases with low commuters no one wants to constantly report at 6AM and release at 11PM but that's how the "optimizer" (bonus generator) drives 1 minute of credit out as its prime directive.
09-08-2019 | 12:36 PM
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5 days for OCT MSP 7ER, and they are almost all combined dom and int. 1 + 2 days are 6% of FO hours combined. 64% of captain hours is 5 days+ and 73% of FO hours is 5 days+
I thought this was a non-commuter base.
CA |# Trips| 15| 34| 46| 36| 98| 8| 14| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 251| average length 4.05
|% Trips| 6%| 14%| 18%| 14%| 39%| 3%| 6%| 0%| 0%| 0%| 0%| 0%| 0%| 0%|
|% Hours| 2%| 7%| 13%| 14%| 49%| 5%| 10%| 0%| 0%| 0%| 0%| 0%| 0%| 0%|
FO |# Trips| 15| 34| 49| 40| 100| 32| 26| 19| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 315| average length 4.61
|% Trips| 5%| 11%| 16%| 13%| 32%| 10%| 8%| 6%| 0%| 0%| 0%| 0%| 0%| 0%|
|% Hours| 1%| 5%| 10%| 11%| 35%| 14%| 13%| 11%| 0%| 0%| 0%| 0%| 0%| 0%|
Good luck building a line out of anything but long trips, #noweekends4U
I thought this was a non-commuter base.
CA |# Trips| 15| 34| 46| 36| 98| 8| 14| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 251| average length 4.05
|% Trips| 6%| 14%| 18%| 14%| 39%| 3%| 6%| 0%| 0%| 0%| 0%| 0%| 0%| 0%|
|% Hours| 2%| 7%| 13%| 14%| 49%| 5%| 10%| 0%| 0%| 0%| 0%| 0%| 0%| 0%|
FO |# Trips| 15| 34| 49| 40| 100| 32| 26| 19| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 0| 315| average length 4.61
|% Trips| 5%| 11%| 16%| 13%| 32%| 10%| 8%| 6%| 0%| 0%| 0%| 0%| 0%| 0%|
|% Hours| 1%| 5%| 10%| 11%| 35%| 14%| 13%| 11%| 0%| 0%| 0%| 0%| 0%| 0%|
Good luck building a line out of anything but long trips, #noweekends4U
Last edited by notEnuf; 09-08-2019 at 01:02 PM.
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