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Old 09-07-2019 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by gopher3
Id like to know the sick call breakdown based on trip length. Id bet 5 days are the highest sick out rate.
And probably have the highest proportion of fatigue calls....
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Old 09-07-2019 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by gopher3
Id like to know the sick call breakdown based on trip length. Id bet 5 days are the highest sick out rate.
The company eliminated 5 day trips. We asked for them back.
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Old 09-07-2019 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
The company eliminated 5 day trips. We asked for them back.
Sorta. They, per their own words, removed 5-days temporarily for testing. Are you saying that's not true?

The pilot group never demanded 100% elimination, nor for a restoration to be a high ratio of trips. The vast majority of guys who bid them, are commuters. Yet the bases with disproportionate commuters seem to be the ones with highest proportion of 1 & 2 days, while the bases with a lot of local guys get a ton of 4 & 5 days.
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Old 09-07-2019 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Herkflyr
Actually the Oct ALV is 82:30! 51% of the trips are 4 or 5 day. The real problem other than the high ALV is that 26% of the trips are 5 day trips. Ridiculous.

For those that wish to see a detailed breakdown of trips by length and percentage of total trips , check out the tables in the bid packages that start around page 23.
I mistyped... yep! 26% 5-day trips in a base where most drive to work. So freaking dumb.
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Old 09-07-2019 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by saturn
Sorta. They, per their own words, removed 5-days temporarily for testing. Are you saying that's not true?

The pilot group never demanded 100% elimination, nor for a restoration to be a high ratio of trips. The vast majority of guys who bid them, are commuters. Yet the bases with disproportionate commuters seem to be the ones with highest proportion of 1 & 2 days, while the bases with a lot of local guys get a ton of 4 & 5 days.
Correct... there's always a handful of masochists that yell for things like 5 days or CDOs. That was the company's call to nuke 5 days... and now they've gone hard the other direction. PBS is really going to choke on this in my category.
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Old 09-07-2019 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by saturn
Sorta. They, per their own words, removed 5-days temporarily for testing. Are you saying that's not true?

The pilot group never demanded 100% elimination, nor for a restoration to be a high ratio of trips. The vast majority of guys who bid them, are commuters. Yet the bases with disproportionate commuters seem to be the ones with highest proportion of 1 & 2 days, while the bases with a lot of local guys get a ton of 4 & 5 days.
They were removed entirely post merger. We demanded them back. There was a second round of eliminating them and pilots wanting them back.
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Old 09-07-2019 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
They were removed entirely post merger. We demanded them back. There was a second round of eliminating them and pilots wanting them back.
The second round was only for a month as a test on staffing.
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Old 09-07-2019 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
ATL 320 A still is so short you can’t drop or move days off...

And the brilliant minds that be in OCT have the ALV still at 81 with 67% of trips as 4 or 5 days with 78% of the hours contained in those.

Looking forward to watching PBS gag on that again...
Same good deal in MSP....
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Old 09-07-2019 | 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Viking busdvr
Same good deal in MSP....
It's (now) 51% of trips and 68% of the hours, with 26% of the trips being 5 days and 39% of the hours ...

Not sure how I messed that up or if the bid pack data block was changed from when I first looked at it, but either way... I can hear PBS choking already. We've got another month to look forward to not being able to move days off.
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Old 09-07-2019 | 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
They were removed entirely post merger. We demanded them back. There was a second round of eliminating them and pilots wanting them back.
You are misrepresenting what happened. It was specific to NYC320. The NYC crew wanted them back because of the large number of commuters. It is a consistent request to the RCC to limit 5 days to no more than 10%. But that is not the only problem. If 5 days are 10% and 4 days are 75% that doesn’t leave much of anything else. We need to have contractual language that gives the RCC some input or that gives a persentage if trips at each length with a +\-.
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