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08-13-2019, 03:29 PM
#391
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Joined APC: Apr 2018
Posts: 3,190
Originally Posted by Der Meister
A big 10-4 buddy. You just got caught up in the pages of muck that is APC. But yes my first language was gibberish so normally I can follow along quite well on APC. Haha
Good one....I appreciate your sense of humor
08-13-2019, 03:32 PM
#392
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Joined APC: Apr 2018
Posts: 3,190
Originally Posted by Iceberg
I think I got you. As an example, you’re saying pay rates +10% vs. pay rates +6% and DC +4%. I didn’t catch that the first time, I see your point.
Since you understand this, kudos to you....I would venture a guess that 95% of ALL the pilots don't know this
08-13-2019, 05:00 PM
#393
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Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: 320A
Posts: 909
Also Buck Roger's I dont mean to really knock you or those who did give up QOL/Pay for the company to get to the point we are at today. I have another 33 ish years here hopefully. But at the same time we cant move forward if we are always looking into the past. We must learn from the past mistakes so we don't make them in the future.
08-13-2019, 06:16 PM
#394
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Joined APC: May 2015
Position: Power top
Posts: 2,959
Originally Posted by Der Meister
Also Buck Roger's I dont mean to really knock you or those who did give up QOL/Pay for the company to get to the point we are at today. I have another 33 ish years here hopefully. But at the same time we cant move forward if we are always looking into the past. We must learn from the past mistakes so we don't make them in the future.
08-15-2019, 04:13 AM
#396
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Joined APC: Jul 2008
Posts: 4,920
Originally Posted by Buck Rogers
I didn't explain that very well....shorthand for comparing straight line pay rates to increased DC contributions(wasn't very clear)
A straight line pay rate will always get profit sharing.
Bumping up the DC contribution is usually misunderstood by junior guys as the same as straight line pay rates cause the senior guy will hit the 415c limit quicker and then it just rolls over to DC excess so same/same in their mind cause they won't hit the 415c limit and get DC excess. So for them the 2 approaches are the same.
Unfortunately, DC excess doesn't get PS therefore all the DC excess loses 16ish% for the senior guy, all the while the junior guys are smiling
I think this is all correct(to the best of my memory)...if inaccurate it will be pointed out
Clear(er) now?
A straight line pay rate will always get profit sharing.
Bumping up the DC contribution is usually misunderstood by junior guys as the same as straight line pay rates cause the senior guy will hit the 415c limit quicker and then it just rolls over to DC excess so same/same in their mind cause they won't hit the 415c limit and get DC excess. So for them the 2 approaches are the same.
Unfortunately, DC excess doesn't get PS therefore all the DC excess loses 16ish% for the senior guy, all the while the junior guys are smiling
I think this is all correct(to the best of my memory)...if inaccurate it will be pointed out
Clear(er) now?
08-16-2019, 03:05 AM
#397
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Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: B737 FO
Posts: 660
General question: is there an easy way to find out where you stand on FAR 117 cummulative FDP and block limits for a month (28 days)? The only place I found block was on the time card and even there I had to add up all my trips from the month to find the total. And that still doesn't give you a rolling 28 day look-back. I haven't found anywhere that shows where you are for FDP other than manually adding up all your duty days from each trip.
GS question: is there a buffer on max FDP and block limits for the month? E.g. I have 93 hours of block in a month and there's a GS with 7 hours of block, will they still consider me for it even though it would put me right to the 100 hour/28 day limit? Or does it need to be 1 hour or 2 hours below? What happens if that GS causes you to not be legal for your next trip in the next month?
All I could find was info about the line adjustment process and GS but I don't think that applies here.
GS question: is there a buffer on max FDP and block limits for the month? E.g. I have 93 hours of block in a month and there's a GS with 7 hours of block, will they still consider me for it even though it would put me right to the 100 hour/28 day limit? Or does it need to be 1 hour or 2 hours below? What happens if that GS causes you to not be legal for your next trip in the next month?
All I could find was info about the line adjustment process and GS but I don't think that applies here.
08-16-2019, 03:10 AM
#398
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Joined APC: Aug 2006
Position: A330 First Officer
Posts: 1,465
Originally Posted by BlueSkies
General question: is there an easy way to find out where you stand on FAR 117 cummulative FDP and block limits for a month (28 days)? The only place I found block was on the time card and even there I had to add up all my trips from the month to find the total. And that still doesn't give you a rolling 28 day look-back. I haven't found anywhere that shows where you are for FDP other than manually adding up all your duty days from each trip.
GS question: is there a buffer on max FDP and block limits for the month? E.g. I have 93 hours of block in a month and there's a GS with 7 hours of block, will they still consider me for it even though it would put me right to the 100 hour/28 day limit? Or does it need to be 1 hour or 2 hours below? What happens if that GS causes you to not be legal for your next trip in the next month?
All I could find was info about the line adjustment process and GS but I don't think that applies here.
GS question: is there a buffer on max FDP and block limits for the month? E.g. I have 93 hours of block in a month and there's a GS with 7 hours of block, will they still consider me for it even though it would put me right to the 100 hour/28 day limit? Or does it need to be 1 hour or 2 hours below? What happens if that GS causes you to not be legal for your next trip in the next month?
All I could find was info about the line adjustment process and GS but I don't think that applies here.
08-16-2019, 04:09 AM
#399
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Joined APC: Feb 2008
Posts: 19,258
Originally Posted by DALMD88FO
Yes icrew, personnel tab, qualifications, block hours flown. And there is a buffer but you'd have to ask a union guy or scheds guy what it is.
08-16-2019, 11:14 AM
#400
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Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: Poodle Whisperer
Posts: 17,473
From the latest MEC update:
The Fitness Review Board (FRB) saw a 55% increase in the number of Fitness for Duty Reports (FFDRs) filed during the first half of 2019 as compared to the previous year.
The Fitness Review Board (FRB) saw a 55% increase in the number of Fitness for Duty Reports (FFDRs) filed during the first half of 2019 as compared to the previous year.
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