Was there an increase in FDP extension requests during the same time?

 

It sounds like someone on the MEC volunteered to carry the crew intimidation water for Delta. If they cared about reporting relevant info to the membership, they would have included the number of requested FDP extensions and any change in the ratio of requested extensions and FFDRs.

 

Awesome, thanks guys. I knew APC would have answers! Overwriting the date is very helpful.

 

I didn't read it that way. I took it as a message saying "if you're feeling more fatigued, you're not alone - make the right call."

 

I'm not sure I understand your point. An FFDR is filed when a pilot has "pulled the plug" on the operation - whether fatigued or unfit for duty, not just because an FDP extension was refused. Regardless, if the those numbers are rising while the amount of flying remains relatively constant (for year-over-year comparative purposes), it would seem the opposite of your "crew intimidation" assertion is happening and pilots, in fact, aren't being intimidated and are calling in fatigued/unfit for duty at greater numbers. I suspect as the company runs the operation at or near the red line with summer IROPS occuring, those numbers will continue to increase.

If you are concerned solely about FDP extensions, maybe you should push for a comparison with other legacies such as United, American and even Southwest. I believe FAR117 only requires a carrier to report actual FDP extensions greater than 30 minutes but it might be interesting to see how Delta ranks among them.

 

I have not seen the data, but I heard from a reliable source that Delta is WAY ahead of other legacy carriers on FDP extensions. Light years ahead of them..Maybe someone can find that data and post it.

 

I agree. Friends at United and AA say they almost never extend.

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That would make it interesting. Profit Sharing currently gets DC. Now we make some of the DC get profit sharing which would also get more DC which would also get more profit sharing..........

 

"Hopefully"? yes. Practically? Nope. The bigger this airline gets, the worse this problem will get.

 

I agree with all of the above except that you do need to file an FFDR for a extension refusal. It is the company's current policy that the only valid reason for refusing the extension is due to fatigue/unfit. So any time you refuse an extension you must fill out an FFDR.