Operation is running on red line
#401
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#402
It sounds like someone on the MEC volunteered to carry the crew intimidation water for Delta. If they cared about reporting relevant info to the membership, they would have included the number of requested FDP extensions and any change in the ratio of requested extensions and FFDRs.
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It sounds like someone on the MEC volunteered to carry the crew intimidation water for Delta. If they cared about reporting relevant info to the membership, they would have included the number of requested FDP extensions and any change in the ratio of requested extensions and FFDRs.
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It sounds like someone on the MEC volunteered to carry the crew intimidation water for Delta. If they cared about reporting relevant info to the membership, they would have included the number of requested FDP extensions and any change in the ratio of requested extensions and FFDRs.
If you are concerned solely about FDP extensions, maybe you should push for a comparison with other legacies such as United, American and even Southwest. I believe FAR117 only requires a carrier to report actual FDP extensions greater than 30 minutes but it might be interesting to see how Delta ranks among them.
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If you are concerned solely about FDP extensions, maybe you should push for a comparison with other legacies such as United, American and even Southwest. I believe FAR117 only requires a carrier to report actual FDP extensions greater than 30 minutes but it might be interesting to see how Delta ranks among them.
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That would make it interesting. Profit Sharing currently gets DC. Now we make some of the DC get profit sharing which would also get more DC which would also get more profit sharing..........
#409
Can we agree that hopefully this summer was a statistical outlier and not an indication of how summers are expected to be going forward?
I’ve also flown with plenty of the furloughed, sat sideways crowd and everyone I’ve flown with lately agrees that this summer has had a relatively higher suck level compared to years past.
I’ve also flown with plenty of the furloughed, sat sideways crowd and everyone I’ve flown with lately agrees that this summer has had a relatively higher suck level compared to years past.
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I'm not sure I understand your point. An FFDR is filed when a pilot has "pulled the plug" on the operation - whether fatigued or unfit for duty, not just because an FDP extension was refused. Regardless, if the those numbers are rising while the amount of flying remains relatively constant (for year-over-year comparative purposes), it would seem the opposite of your "crew intimidation" assertion is happening and pilots, in fact, aren't being intimidated and are calling in fatigued/unfit for duty at greater numbers. I suspect as the company runs the operation at or near the red line with summer IROPS occuring, those numbers will continue to increase.
If you are concerned solely about FDP extensions, maybe you should push for a comparison with other legacies such as United, American and even Southwest. I believe FAR117 only requires a carrier to report actual FDP extensions greater than 30 minutes but it might be interesting to see how Delta ranks among them.
If you are concerned solely about FDP extensions, maybe you should push for a comparison with other legacies such as United, American and even Southwest. I believe FAR117 only requires a carrier to report actual FDP extensions greater than 30 minutes but it might be interesting to see how Delta ranks among them.
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