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Old 08-12-2019, 02:09 PM
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In all fairness to those who created and implemented the summer staffing model, they didn't have a crystal ball to see the 737MAX disaster at Boeing. Our domestic operation has expanded this summer due to Boeing inflicted capacity reduction at our competitors. We have chosen to capture this short term opportunity with the flexible staffing model within our PWA called GS. There aren't near as many GS opportunities on the WB side, because the 737MAX didn't change the summer staffing requirements as drastically.

If the suitcases full of money are too heavy, submit an FCR to have payroll use $100s instead of $20s.
This is largely incorrect reasoning, as trip construction has not changed on the WB side, while it has drastically changed on the narrow body side.
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Old 08-12-2019, 02:55 PM
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In all fairness to those who created and implemented the summer staffing model, they didn't have a crystal ball to see the 737MAX disaster at Boeing.
Right, which doesn't explain reduced/insufficient hiring. At all.
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Old 08-12-2019, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp View Post
To further expand, it is the reduction of the block hours outside of summer. They are keeping it higher year round now with only marginal reductions.
Don't we have a contractual balacing feature whereby if they run it like this it has to later adjust? Will they have to dramatically ramp up staffing because of this, or is that feature simply functionally inadequate?
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Old 08-12-2019, 02:59 PM
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Like I said, if you don't want to fly greenslips or whiteslips you do not have too. Fly your trips, and enjoy time at home. Reroutes have benefited you, so why complain about being understaffed? You should be busy with family at home, and not worried about Delta understaffing certain categories.
MOSTLY benefited me. Like I said another downside to being understaffed is insanely high LCW/ALVs. I don’t worry about anything related to Delta, nor does Ed call me and ask me what I think we should do.

There are some serious unintended consequences to being understaffed that affect 14,000+ of us. Not just those of us who need to credit 120 hours a month.
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Old 08-12-2019, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunfighter View Post
In all fairness to those who created and implemented the summer staffing model, they didn't have a crystal ball to see the 737MAX disaster at Boeing. Our domestic operation has expanded this summer due to Boeing inflicted capacity reduction at our competitors. We have chosen to capture this short term opportunity with the flexible staffing model within our PWA called GS. There aren't near as many GS opportunities on the WB side, because the 737MAX didn't change the summer staffing requirements as drastically.

If the suitcases full of money are too heavy, submit an FCR to have payroll use $100s instead of $20s.
What you mean short term?
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Old 08-12-2019, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp View Post
This is largely incorrect reasoning, as trip construction has not changed on the WB side, while it has drastically changed on the narrow body side.
80, you are usually sharper than this, the reasoning is 100% correct. NB trip mix has been changed to capture the market share left on the table by the parked 737MAX. There was no comparable event on the WB side, so trip mix was not adjusted to the changing market.
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Old 08-12-2019, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunfighter View Post
80, you are usually sharper than this, the reasoning is 100% correct. NB trip mix has been changed to capture the market share left on the table by the parked 737MAX. There was no comparable event on the WB side, so trip mix was not adjusted to the changing market.
The changes and pad cutouts have been longer term than the MAX grounding, it's just coming to a head now. Yes, it did contribute, but was not a primary factor.
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Old 08-12-2019, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by GliderCFI View Post
What you mean short term?
Less than one year is short term. Our management team capitalized on an opportunity in the market. If we have reason to believe it will be parked for the summer of 2020 and also confident our competitors cannot find a capacity solution, we could take a gamble on increased staffing. If we are wrong a few months of attrition will solve the overage.
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Old 08-12-2019, 03:38 PM
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Don't we have a contractual balacing feature whereby if they run it like this it has to later adjust? Will they have to dramatically ramp up staffing because of this, or is that feature simply functionally inadequate?
What section(s) of the PWA has Delta proved they won't violate?
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Old 08-12-2019, 03:49 PM
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Great point...it doest seem to let up anymore like it used too.
I dunno, my commute went from 5-6 flights a day to 3 next month. Somebody's not flying
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