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Old 08-12-2019 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Never mind that we aren’t shouldering this year like we did years ago... it’s going to keep on chugging!
Great point...it doest seem to let up anymore like it used too.
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Old 08-12-2019 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by gopher3
Great point...it doest seem to let up anymore like it used too.
That's because it's not... it's a much smarter way to run an airline, but they've got to accept reality and staff for it.
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Old 08-12-2019 | 12:25 PM
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What is shouldering?
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Old 08-12-2019 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by PassportPlump
Well I have a wife, kids, a family, and friends I enjoy being around from time to time. So yeah, short staffing kind of stinks for me and people like me. If I was married to Delta and the jet I fly, I guess your perspective makes sense.

I’m perfectly fine living on the $160,000 I make a year just flying my bid award. Not a huge fan of 80+ hour ALV’s either.

My reroutes have mostly benefited me this summer. The delays caused waiting for a captain to show up for a greenslip on a split rotation have cost me some commutes home.

In my previous life this is how the operation went on, and then sick and fatigue calls start rolling into an already under staffed operation. Short staffing an airline costs a lot to pilots in terms of QOL, upgrades, etc.
Like I said, if you don't want to fly greenslips or whiteslips you do not have too. Fly your trips, and enjoy time at home. Reroutes have benefited you, so why complain about being understaffed? You should be busy with family at home, and not worried about Delta understaffing certain categories.
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Old 08-12-2019 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Sputnik
What is shouldering?
The months between busy season and slow season. Aka Sept and May.
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Old 08-12-2019 | 12:35 PM
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My guess is most of our 321 deliveries are being staffed, at least in the short term, by the start up of the LAX base.
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Old 08-12-2019 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Bergman
The months between busy season and slow season. Aka Sept and May.
To further expand, it is the reduction of the block hours outside of summer. They are keeping it higher year round now with only marginal reductions.
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Old 08-12-2019 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by tennisguru
My guess is most of our 321 deliveries are being staffed, at least in the short term, by the start up of the LAX base.
Correct. Those trips they are building out there are some doozies. Start with a redeye, sit for a couple hours and then deadhead and day layover to start a 4 day.
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Old 08-12-2019 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
You may be able to GS and WS like crazy but dropping trips and SWP can be fairly hard to do if your category is undermanned. Things in a month can change/come up after the initial bid....

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Good point, dropping trips can be tough if you are understaffed and reserve coverage isn't there.
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Old 08-12-2019 | 02:02 PM
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In all fairness to those who created and implemented the summer staffing model, they didn't have a crystal ball to see the 737MAX disaster at Boeing. Our domestic operation has expanded this summer due to Boeing inflicted capacity reduction at our competitors. We have chosen to capture this short term opportunity with the flexible staffing model within our PWA called GS. There aren't near as many GS opportunities on the WB side, because the 737MAX didn't change the summer staffing requirements as drastically.

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