Why not? There is a Delta policy that explicitly allows you to be booked positive space on a commute if you miss your first option. It is company and union supported. And during many IROPs, the company has allowed positive space commuting. In your argument, the company is rewarding us with a higher priority non rev because we choose to commute.

Because of your earlier rudeness I'm not going to spoon-feed you. Go back and read.

https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/2877918-post183.html

The policy does however require proper planning including weather, special events and seat availability. If you follow those guidelines the likeyhood of needing a PS seat is very small.

I think what you're missing is edv isnt staffed like delta. Especially years ago ( which included times when i was there) it was common knowledge if you lived in a select number of cities with limited service you were getting a pos space ticket in for summer and Thanksgiving to just past new years. Call them after the first and say, good luck because im not getting on, you'd get on hold and they'd just roll ya a pos space ticket because the was no staffing. Now that edv is staffed up its different, except on days when 85% of your pilots are commuting in for first legs, hint, its a friday often, and delta has no seats because theyre still recovering from Thursday afternoons irop.

I love the profit sharing checks but I gotta wonder how much worse the profits will be when edv is cancelling half their flights for the weekend because the Captains from dtw, dfw, den and the FOs from Florida first open seat or jumpseat will be Monday. *Shrug*

(Bring all the RJs to mainline).

While small, it does happen.

My story was commute from BOS to JFK....CAVU up/down entire East coast with no delays, IROPS, etc. Night prior shows flight wide open. The next morning, the flight that was two flights before my planned was a RJ....they ended up CNX' for MX, so all PAX got rolled to the next flight (which was my primary). I show up at airport and not a single non-rev got on. Called Scheds and they put me on my backup PS without even blinking an eye and I still made my sign in on time.

Glad the PS option is there.

That’s exactly the situation it’s designed for!

Sure beats walking around with a pocket full of half fares like the olden days.

I've had to use it several times and every time it bumped a paying passenger. If you live in a place where there is a hub serviced primarily by RJ, your open flight is almost guaranteed to fill up after an inevitable delay by DCI. Plus, since most senior people wait until 1 hour prior to list for non-rev, the "what your seniority can hold 24 hours out" part only plays to my benefit to use UTC.

And this whole comment thread is about Endeavor. They have the same clause as we do. The major reason they were bumped up to S3A was because they are being bumped by retirees who could travel on any day and Endeavor was bumping paying pax on their backup. And that costs money.

Good for you! I’m gonna stick the contractual requirements and continue using second option positive space.

Your argument is pointless, and you act like these incidents happen all the time on a daily basis. Idk why you couldn’t respond to two requests for an answer to your statement, and instead start insulting..like someone else pointed out it’s evident you are closed minded and very opinionated on your comments here. I’ll digress from feeding the troll...it would definitely be a sick call or looking out the window on a trip with you 😒