I literally just asked you to explain yourself (ie: have a discussion)... Tell me how my advising you to find a business-friendly solution to your problem is the same as me telling you your retirees don't matter.

Or are you having trouble with that?

9E parents travel at the same priority as Delta retirees, but with an obviously MUCH lower seniority date. So they don't get better priority.

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At first I was thinking this as well, but his point is still valid since 9E active kids/spouses board before DL active parents and retirees. Either group having priority over the other (9E active vs. DL parents/retirees) could cost Delta money in some way, but I suppose Delta decided 9E active crews getting PSC was more expensive and dealt with it accordingly.

Yea that's correct, but to correct what he said, my parents always travel below Delta retirees. I'd have to look but I believe my kids and spouse only get s3a if they're with me right? Otherwise it's s3??

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On all DL and DCI including 9E, 9E parents/retirees travel at S3CR which is well below anything DL retirees travel at on anybody


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That's what I thought. But the kids/wife still bump retirees if you travel with them to drop them off at Grandma's, or anywhere else... So the OP's issue remains, and it is a valid issue for discussion.

I just felt that complaining about working 9E crew's kids getting travel priority over retirees being "wrong" shouldn't be done without acknowledging how the issue with WO contractors developed in the first place. Hence, Delta's business position must also be considered when discussing a solution.

A 30 year retired 9e employee
Gets on a 9e flight after the son/daughter of a new hire DL employee. Where’s the outrage?

This whole conversation is a moot point any way, the priority isn't going to change, and if management is willing to add flight benefits to the contract, then DALPA will want positive space tickets, which have an actual tangible value assigned to them.

Are you choosing to live somewhere other than where you are based? Have you attempted multiple avenues including two legging to get to work? Is there an IROP? My experience is that anytime I’ve had extenuating circumstances commuting I notify scheduling of said circumstance and am told to get there when I can. I have never been Positive Spaced by scheduling here at DL to get in position for a rotation or assignment. But I also do my homework and know when I need to look at alternatives when it comes to commuting, and that’s my responsibility because I choose to commute

Why do you believe it cost Delta money to put 9E Employees Families on vs Retirees? Simply asking a question due to what you stated...not sure why it’s hard to answer that?