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Old 08-18-2019, 12:59 PM
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SIAP, but talked to a recent retiree and he was really upset about this (change?) that puts Endeavor guys ahead of our retiree's. I wholeheartedly agree. I say we put this high on our list for the contract. Not right.
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SIAP, but talked to a recent retiree and he was really upset about this (change?) that puts Endeavor guys ahead of our retiree's. I wholeheartedly agree. I say we put this high on our list for the contract. Not right.
Agreed. Could I have a medical plan with that please. Medium rare.
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You want a retiree to go in front of an actively working employee?
Why do you think they get the retiree designation?
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Old 08-18-2019, 01:17 PM
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You want a retiree to go in front of an actively working employee?
Why do you think they get the retiree designation?
A retiree goes behind the dependent of Endeavor as well as the employee on main line metal which is wrong.
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You want a retiree to go in front of an actively working employee?
Why do you think they get the retiree designation?
You mean have a pilot who spent an entire career in service to our company go in front of a regional pilot possibly straight out of indoc? Yes I do. And that’s as a former regional pilot.

There could obviously be exceptions for pilots commuting to work, but arguing that a retiree should lose the last Delta One seat to Sydney to an Endeavor new hire is going to be a pretty tough ask here.
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One issue I see is, if a retiree bumps an active Endeavor employee while he/she is commuting to work. They get positive space on the next flight. What if that next flight is already over sold or you and your family is trying to non rev on.
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You want a retiree to go in front of an actively working employee?
That employee does not work for Delta. The retiree did.
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Old 08-18-2019, 02:23 PM
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Having Uncle John and little Timmy get on a flight prior to an active employee trying to get to work is beyond me.. Active employees should very well go ahead of retirees. They're trying to get to work, to a job, and make a living. If they can't get to work, how is that done? Then if they can't, that causes an operational disruption as crew members are out of place, or positive space tickets are issued. Let's not overthink this..
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Having Uncle John and little Timmy get on a flight prior to an active employee trying to get to work is beyond me.. Active employees should very well go ahead of retirees. They're trying to get to work, to a job, and make a living. If they can't get to work, how is that done? Then if they can't, that causes an operational disruption as crew members are out of place, or positive space tickets are issued. Let's not overthink this..
What if they’re not going to work? What if they’re going on vacation on a 15 hr flight? Should a one-week veteran of Endeavor really bump a guy with 40 plus years at mainline back to steerage? Badflap’s knees might not take it
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That employee does not work for Delta. The retiree did.
Well - they don't anymore, and the Endeavor employee does work for Delta. They are not a Delta employee, but make no mistake those pay rates are the reason you and that retiree enjoyed all those profit sharing checks.

You retire, your seperated from the company. As a benefit you still get space available travel, albeit at a lower priority.
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