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Old 08-18-2019 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Meow1215
Their own metal, is Delta's metal. Hate to break the news to you.
Operated by Endeavor. So it’s Endeavor’s metal. And Endeavor employees and retirees should mostly definitely have priority in that case.
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Old 08-18-2019 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Cogf16
SIAP, but talked to a recent retiree and he was really upset about this (change?) that puts Endeavor guys ahead of our retiree's. I wholeheartedly agree. I say we put this high on our list for the contract. Not right.
If added into your contract, it would only be for retired pilots.
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Old 08-18-2019 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Meow1215
Their own metal, is Delta's metal. Hate to break the news to you.
True but mainline is not their metal. Let me ask you this: Should compass, GoJet, Republic, and Skywest all go ahead of our retirees for vacation travel? Or just you guys? Our retirees gave a lot for this profession.
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Old 08-18-2019 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 20Fathoms
True but mainline is not their metal. Let me ask you this: Should compass, GoJet, Republic, and Skywest all go ahead of our retirees for vacation travel? Or just you guys? Our retirees gave a lot for this profession.
Gave a lot, like scope? Haha. Sorry. I couldn't help myself.
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Old 08-18-2019 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 20Fathoms
True but mainline is not their metal. Let me ask you this: Should compass, GoJet, Republic, and Skywest all go ahead of our retirees for vacation travel? Or just you guys? Our retirees gave a lot for this profession.
Based on the arguments, yes, they are active employees.
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Old 08-18-2019 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ChecklistMonkey
Gave a lot, like scope? Haha. Sorry. I couldn't help myself.
I guess I did set myself up for that
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Old 08-18-2019 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 20Fathoms
True but mainline is not their metal. Let me ask you this: Should compass, GoJet, Republic, and Skywest all go ahead of our retirees for vacation travel? Or just you guys? Our retirees gave a lot for this profession.
Yes they did, which is why Delta still gives them the ability to travel the world for free.
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Old 08-18-2019 | 03:31 PM
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Totally don’t buy the “Endeavor employee NON-REVVING to work” argument. In that case, an Endeavor employee non-revving to WORK should have priority over an S2, right?

The jumpseat is for commuting. Non-reving is a benefit of employment (active or retired). Not eligible for the jumpseat? Then commuting to work at Endeavor is dicey career choice. Got bumped from the jumpseat? Commuter clause.

Endeavor is a wholly owned. They are not Delta employees. Their benefits should not undermine Delta employee benefits (active or retired).

I’m almost convinced this is a false flag move to force us to expend negotiating capital on a benefit we already had.

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Old 08-18-2019 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Speed Select
Totally don’t buy the “Endeavor employee NON-REVVING to work” argument. In that case, an Endeavor employee non-revving to WORK should have priority over an S2, right?

The jumpseat is for commuting. Non-reving is a benefit of employment (active or retired). Not eligible for the jumpseat? Then commuting to work at Endeavor is dicey career choice. Got bumped from the jumpseat? Commuter clause.

Endeavor is a wholly owned. They are not Delta employees. Their benefits should not undermine Delta employee benefits (active or retired).

I’m almost convinced this is a false flag move to force us to expend negotiating capital on a benefit we already had.
Agreed. Why can’t endeavor book jumpseat on delta just like us?
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Old 08-18-2019 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Speed Select
Totally don’t buy the “Endeavor employee NON-REVVING to work” argument. In that case, an Endeavor employee non-revving to WORK should have priority over an S2, right?

The jumpseat is for commuting. Non-reving is a benefit of employment (active or retired). Not eligible for the jumpseat? Then commuting to work at Endeavor is dicey career choice. Got bumped from the jumpseat? Commuter clause.


So only 1-2 people per flight can commute to work? lol
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