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Old 08-19-2019 | 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by 20Fathoms

There could obviously be exceptions for pilots commuting to work, but arguing that a retiree should lose the last Delta One seat to Sydney to an Endeavor new hire is going to be a pretty tough ask here.
I thought retirement was supposed to be a life of leisure where there are no time constraints.
Not sure how many new hires can afford to go to Sydney, and if they could it would be really tough to fit it in on their max 4 days off stretch. The retired guys/gals can be stuck out and continue to enjoy another shrimp and frothy on the beach if their priority forces them to get thrown into that briar patch.
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Old 08-19-2019 | 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by herewego
I thought retirement was supposed to be a life of leisure where there are no time constraints.
Not sure how many new hires can afford to go to Sydney, and if they could it would be really tough to fit it in on their max 4 days off stretch. The retired guys/gals can be stuck out and continue to enjoy another shrimp and frothy on the beach if their priority forces them to get thrown into that briar patch.
You know that there are regionals with more than 4days off in a row? And some NHs do crazy stuff while waiting for those sim trainings, some regionals have 1-2 months wait between indoc and sim.

You know, first job after CFi, living still in their parents house with a 20-30k new hire bonus and getting a paycheck every two weeks.
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Old 08-19-2019 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by AimHigh1


So only 1-2 people per flight can commute to work? lol
We can take as many jumpseaters as we have open seats in the back. LOL.

Open the FA Jumpseat to wholly-owned pilots. Implement Delta commuter clause policies at Endeavor. But don’t erode the benefits of working at (and retiring from) Delta.
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Old 08-19-2019 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Speed Select
We can take as many jumpseaters as we have open seats in the back. LOL.

Open the FA Jumpseat to wholly-owned pilots. Implement Delta commuter clause policies at Endeavor. But don’t erode the benefits of working at (and retiring from) Delta.
They already have a commuter clause that mirrors ours.
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Old 08-19-2019 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Iceberg
They already have a commuter clause that mirrors ours.
And that's the reason they changed it because Endeavor employees were bumped by traveling retirees and they had to buy a ticket on the next flight for them bumping revenue. Unlike us, their policy is a no fault policy.
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Old 08-19-2019 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
That’s true but that’s not the point and you know it. You benefitted from the sacrifices of the pilots that were here and had to endure them.

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I wouldn’t call $20/hr to fly an RJ during the lost decade was a benefit. Everyone suffered during those times.
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Old 08-19-2019 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by ChecklistMonkey
And that's the reason they changed it because Endeavor employees were bumped by traveling retirees and they had to buy a ticket on the next flight for them bumping revenue. Unlike us, their policy is a no fault policy.
Great. You get bumped from your first flight? Call ATL and get your status bumped up to S3A or S2A or S1C... get the pilot/FA to work! Our commuter policy works pretty well.

Blanket S3A is an erosion of Delta employee (active and retired) benefits.
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Old 08-19-2019 | 11:58 AM
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Easy solution here. Home Basing.
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Old 08-19-2019 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by FliesInSoup
Easy solution here. Home Basing.
Easier solution is to stop all regional and outsource flying. All in-house and no non union flying.
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Old 08-19-2019 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by jethikoki
Easier solution is to stop all regional and outsource flying. All in-house and no non union flying.
I like that too.
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