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Old 08-18-2019 | 07:58 PM
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Nice job Cof16, your Bengals will go 6 and 10.
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Old 08-18-2019 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
Yeah.........just like we took a 45+ percent total pay cut, loss of pension etc to save this company so you could have a job to eventually come too. Sorry. Couldn't help myself.

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I mean, to be fair, not a single person voted in a 45% pay cut thinking, "I'm doing this for CM so he one day will have a job." You did it so the company wouldn't go belly up and so you wouldn't have to start over at the bottom of the list somewhere.
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Old 08-18-2019 | 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ChecklistMonkey
I mean, to be fair, not a single person voted in a 45% pay cut thinking, "I'm doing this for CM so he one day will have a job." You did it so the company wouldn't go belly up and so you wouldn't have to start over at the bottom of the list somewhere.
There may very well have been no other list to go to.
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Old 08-18-2019 | 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ChecklistMonkey
I mean, to be fair, not a single person voted in a 45% pay cut thinking, "I'm doing this for CM so he one day will have a job." You did it so the company wouldn't go belly up and so you wouldn't have to start over at the bottom of the list somewhere.
That’s true but that’s not the point and you know it. You benefitted from the sacrifices of the pilots that were here and had to endure them.

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Old 08-18-2019 | 10:07 PM
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Does Delta have 100% ownership of compass, GoJet, Republic, and Skywest? If they do, yes. Your retirees did give allot for this profession. So do the Endeavor employees. You can see it in your profit sharing check among other things.

A simple solution to this problem is for DAL to bring all the regional flying back in house. No need to staple any regional to the bottom of the list. Just bring the flying back in house.
Agreed on bringing the flying back in house. Well said. We hope you guys are here one day and eventually become the retirees we speak of. As for the wholly owned part, it doesn’t really hold much sway IMHO. For all intents and purposes we own most of Virgin Atlantic. Should they get benefits above our retirees? What about the folks at the Trainer refinery? Pretty sure we own that. Delta casts its net wide and we own a lot of things. I guess it’s above both of our paygrades though. Delta can unilaterally place emotional support peacocks at S2 unless we put it in the contract. Just my 2 cents.
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Old 08-19-2019 | 05:42 AM
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Agreed on bringing the flying back in house. Well said. We hope you guys are here one day and eventually become the retirees we speak of. As for the wholly owned part, it doesn’t really hold much sway IMHO. For all intents and purposes we own most of Virgin Atlantic. Should they get benefits above our retirees? What about the folks at the Trainer refinery? Pretty sure we own that. Delta casts its net wide and we own a lot of things. I guess it’s above both of our paygrades though. Delta can unilaterally place emotional support peacocks at S2 unless we put it in the contract. Just my 2 cents.
Just curious, how many wholly owned domestic companies carries DAL customers and employees? You also had 2 opportunities to bring back or keep all your flying in house. First you gave up your scope and then you gave up the flying on the regional aircraft DAL owned after the NWA merger that you had to adjust your pilots contract for.
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Old 08-19-2019 | 06:22 AM
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Have we gotten to the part where pilots suggest they should get higher nonrev priority than FAs and other employees yet?
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Old 08-19-2019 | 06:23 AM
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Have we gotten to the part where pilots suggest they should get higher nonrev priority than FAs and other employees yet?
Not yet but I can see the beginning ripples of it.
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Old 08-19-2019 | 06:44 AM
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Have we gotten to the part where pilots suggest they should get higher nonrev priority than FAs and other employees yet?
Maybe for the retirees.
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Old 08-19-2019 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
Yeah.........just like we took a 45+ percent total pay cut, loss of pension etc to save this company so you could have a job to eventually come too. Sorry. Couldn't help myself.

Denny
This right here. Lest we forget. Since nobody has said it yet, I will, since I can't help myself either Commuting is a choice!
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