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Han Solo 09-23-2019 02:01 PM
Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2892006)
That’s a lot of work for a free move when the pay difference would have covered it and more. A 320 CA with a seniority number in the 800’s bid to MD88 CA in ATL also. Could hold 777CA.
I also found that 800 seniority guy's bid fairly peculiar, and he'll be stuck until the bitter end whenever that might be. Heck, there's that guy in the 1200s that bid NYC 220B and now just swapped to SLC -- who knows why guys bid what they do? The results are there for us to see and if those guy didn't bid the 88 for a free move, then as you said it's STILL a lot of work -- but for no apparent reach around at the end.

Aviator147 09-23-2019 02:08 PM
few of my friends on 88B were trying to bid off after the displacement was cancelled last month. Supposedly during the bid window, their iCrew showed NO Seat Lock/Freeze, but now post award, the Freeze is back to their new hire seat lock date....

tunes 09-23-2019 02:18 PM
Originally Posted by Gspeed (Post 2891996)
How about that 10,000's seniority FO bidding from ATL7ER to ATLM88. :confused:
Or the sub 1k bidding to M88A from 320A or the 1k seniority bidding 220B. Different strokes for different folks but i cant figure it out.

tunes 09-23-2019 02:19 PM
Originally Posted by gatorbuc99 (Post 2892004)
I'm very confused. Currently ATL M88B, I bid NYC73NB with a percentage and ATL 73NB w/ no qualifiers, and a bunch of buddies I know did the same. There were junior pilots awarded both categories. I know in the AE there was a statement that I couldn't make sense of, but just ignored:

"If we see a high volume of pilots leaving the M88B, we will not fill the posted positions; instead backfilling departed pilots will consume the training resources over the next few months."

...but there were other ATL M88Bs that were awarded other categories.

What in the actual ****?!?!?! So they can just ignore people's bids?!
You had a ATL 73 bid in with no qualifiers and it went junior to you? And you aren’t under a seat lock?

gatorbuc99 09-23-2019 02:27 PM
Originally Posted by tunes (Post 2892030)
You had a ATL 73 bid in with no qualifiers and it went junior to you? And you aren’t under a seat lock?
Affirm on all.

bronco21016 09-23-2019 02:29 PM
I’m in same boat. At least two other 88 F/Os I know of in same boat.

We would have seat locks but after the cancelled 88B displacements we were all under the impression the locks were cancelled. We were all affected by that.

Called MEC office. What else can I do?

3 green 09-23-2019 02:32 PM
Originally Posted by tunes (Post 2892029)
Or the sub 1k bidding to M88A from 320A or the 1k seniority bidding 220B. Different strokes for different folks but i cant figure it out.
Probably figure as the category(88) phases out it will be a good place to make some $$$$.

Broncos 09-23-2019 02:41 PM
Originally Posted by bronco21016 (Post 2892041)
I’m in same boat. At least two other 88 F/Os I know of in same boat.

We would have seat locks but after the cancelled 88B displacements we were all under the impression the locks were cancelled. We were all affected by that.

Called MEC office. What else can I do?
I'd send an email to Bob Schmelzer. Or maybe ask him the question on SkyHub.

tunes 09-23-2019 02:44 PM
Originally Posted by bronco21016 (Post 2892041)
I’m in same boat. At least two other 88 F/Os I know of in same boat.

We would have seat locks but after the cancelled 88B displacements we were all under the impression the locks were cancelled. We were all affected by that.

Called MEC office. What else can I do?
Quick glance all i saw was 22.F.11 and i don’t see seat lock mentioned. I’d wait for contract admin to get back to you since they would be the experts here. Did they provide a PWA reference that you wouldnt have a seat lock when they canceled your displacement?

ERflyer 09-23-2019 02:54 PM
Originally Posted by tunes (Post 2892029)
Or the sub 1k bidding to M88A from 320A or the 1k seniority bidding 220B. Different strokes for different folks but i cant figure it out.
Super seniority. Lifestyle. Don’t need the money anymore. Or get multiple GS trips in a new category. Know the airplane is going somewhere they want to go. Want to fly with someone. Everyone has a reason.


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