Nov/dec ae
11-03-2019, 04:49 AM
#741
Banned
Joined APC: May 2018
Posts: 314
Originally Posted by TED74
As 30-year longevity pilots fall off the top, and sub five-year longevity pilots fill in and expand the bottom, there would seem to be a massive productivity gain. I would love to see Alpa quantify how much sick leave and vacation time the company sheds over the next two contract cycles. My hunch is the mean longevity year is also dropping on our pay scales, at least for narrow-body fos.
11-03-2019, 04:50 AM
#742
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2009
Position: Middle Seat
Posts: 1,206
Originally Posted by GivemeVSP
Given it takes nearly 3 months for a new hire to be OE complete, is that really 900 pilots on line by next summer?
Just a singular point of reference, but from indoc to completion of IOE was less than 8 weeks for me. I know my schedule was quick though.
11-03-2019, 05:19 AM
#744
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 4,920
Originally Posted by PassportPlump
Not to mention a 30 year pilot has 5 weeks of vacation and a ton of sick time. A new hire has absolutely nothing. That in itself is a productivity gain.
11-03-2019, 06:05 AM
#745
Stands to be Corrected
Joined APC: Mar 2018
Position: C-17 / 7ER
Posts: 323
Originally Posted by cni187
Both belong in Victorville Ca or Tucson Az. If you listened to Crew Resources latest then you may have heard people prefer to ride on the 321. It’s going to be fun watching Boeing go down.
11-03-2019, 07:12 AM
#746
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2008
Posts: 707
Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF
I'm delighted you love the histrionics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !
CAN it be done in two months? Yes
Do I think it will be all signed/sealed/delivered by then? No
My study of contracts has shown me that while sometimes contracts are agreed upon early (DAL CK12) other times they are after the amendable date (NW 1996-1998, DAL 2000-2001).
While I agree it's not all going to be wrapped up by end of this year, I just don't see it going into 2021/2022 like some others.
CAN it be done in two months? Yes
Do I think it will be all signed/sealed/delivered by then? No
My study of contracts has shown me that while sometimes contracts are agreed upon early (DAL CK12) other times they are after the amendable date (NW 1996-1998, DAL 2000-2001).
While I agree it's not all going to be wrapped up by end of this year, I just don't see it going into 2021/2022 like some others.
I suppose the only reason Delta may want to get one done is, they prefer the Tier 1 candidates. So I guess I dont really know??
11-03-2019, 07:51 AM
#747
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2015
Position: stake holder ir.delta.com
Posts: 10,066
Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF
So on time is 6 months early? While I agree that happend a few times (DAL C2K12) it also didn't...
- NWA back in late 90's had an amendable date in Oct 96....they got new contract in Sept 98
- DAL early 2000's: amendable date May 2000, new contract Jun 2001
- I think we all know how the TA1/TA2 worked out.
- NWA back in late 90's had an amendable date in Oct 96....they got new contract in Sept 98
- DAL early 2000's: amendable date May 2000, new contract Jun 2001
- I think we all know how the TA1/TA2 worked out.
11-03-2019, 09:37 AM
#748
Can't abide NAI
Joined APC: Jun 2007
Position: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
Posts: 11,993
Originally Posted by Milk Man
I suppose the only reason Delta may want to get one done is, they prefer the Tier 1 candidates. So I guess I dont really know??
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
