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10-14-2019, 05:20 PM

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CPPfacts

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Originally Posted by Baradium

Someone already posted a picture of the new UAL jumpseat priority on another one of these complaining threads and it clearly shows Date of Hire.

I’m in the exclusive UEX, and am fine with DOH. Skywest wants in the exclusive UEX group.

10-14-2019, 05:24 PM

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I’m in the exclusive UEX, and am fine with DOH. Skywest wants in the exclusive UEX group.

United isn't even putting them in the non-exclusive UAX group, and forcing DOH on other airlines for their priority isn't kosher, so no that doesn't make it all better.

10-14-2019, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Baradium

Someone already posted a picture of the new UAL jumpseat priority on another one of these complaining threads and it clearly shows Date of Hire.

You're right that is what it shows even on the exclusive carrier metal. I was told otherwise by my rep because one of the advantages of this is when they get it integrated into the res system pilots will be able to see where they are in the pecking order. TOC with the one hour prior has been severely abused. Getting rid of TOC will be great for everyone especially the gate agents.

10-14-2019, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Baradium

United isn't even putting them in the non-exclusive UAX group, and forcing DOH on other airlines for their priority isn't kosher, so no that doesn't make it all better.

Yes they are, it said by the pic (that I posted) that when SkyWest signs the agreement they are in the non-exclusive group.

UAL and Jumpseats

10-14-2019, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by tennisguru

Basically United move them down a step, so on United metal it's UA pilots, Exclusively UAX regionals (like Air Wisconsin, who only flies for UA), then everyone else, including UAX regionals who also fly for DL, AA, etc. The same basic priority system also applies to exclusive UAX metal flights.

It actually has one more level on Ual metal, all use date of hire
1 Ual pilots
2 exclusive - fly only for Ual - xjt, Air Wisconsin....
3 non exclusive - fly for Ual and others - Skywest, Mesa...
4 others

Skywest, republic, and Mesa have not signed on. If they do they will be tier 3, if not tier 4.

On the regionals who have signed the agreement, date of hire is also used and the order is:
1 their pilots on their metal
2 Ual pilots
3 exclusive
4 non exclusive
5 others

A few select people at Republic and Skywest are trying to make this into something big. It isn’t.

10-14-2019, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Baradium

United isn't even putting them in the non-exclusive UAX group, and forcing DOH on other airlines for their priority isn't kosher, so no that doesn't make it all better.

They have the option to go in the “non exclusive UAX” group, but they refuse. That is their choice.

What’s wrong with DOH?

10-14-2019, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 1257

Yes they are, it said by the pic (that I posted) that when SkyWest signs the agreement they are in the non-exclusive group.

UAL and Jumpseats

The agreement which forces them to use date of hire, which is where I have my contention.

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They have the option to go in the “non exclusive UAX” group, but they refuse. That is their choice.

What’s wrong with DOH?

DOH is not industry standard for jumpseating and was done to give an advantage to senior pilots. It's one thing for an airline to decide on their own to use it because it is their jumpseat. It is another to force other airlines to use it.