Republic denial of travel on DL AC
10-15-2019, 01:43 PM
#41
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
Those other carriers aren't starting a jumpseat war over something that would not be an issue if they were ALPA.
10-15-2019, 04:47 PM
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I am highly confused by all of this. Most of the chatter I skimmed through relates this as stemming from United. How does this carry over to Jumpseat issues on the Delta side of the SkyWest and Republic operations?
10-15-2019, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by gliderguider
I am highly confused by all of this. Most of the chatter I skimmed through relates this as stemming from United. How does this carry over to Jumpseat issues on the Delta side of the SkyWest and Republic operations?
10-15-2019, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by gliderguider
I am highly confused by all of this. Most of the chatter I skimmed through relates this as stemming from United. How does this carry over to Jumpseat issues on the Delta side of the SkyWest and Republic operations?
As far as why this thread is here, it seems some United pilots are trying to get other airlines to deny them so these threads are popping up everywhere. That combined with threats of blacklisting Captains and FOs who are on flights where UAL jumpseaters are denied just seems to me to be playing dirty. I don't even get where the idea of blacklisting an FO who doesn't even own the jumpseat comes from.
10-15-2019, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by tennisguru
Because they're going to deny UA jumpseaters on ANY republic or SkyWest flight, regardless of which banner it's flown under. Doesn't affect us directly.
10-15-2019, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by gliderguider
Ah, I see thanks for the simple explanation. I was too simpleminded to think that their Jumpseat spat would extend to UA folks on Delta Conx flights.
I honestly would normally expect them to start with just requiring UAL pilots have the same treatment they get on UAL a/c, but I haven't looked into this enough to see how long this spat has really been going on or what they've been doing about it otherwise.
10-15-2019, 05:15 PM
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My view on this whole thing is that it is the SkyWest and Republic pilots' jumpseat on aircraft they operate. If UAL pilots want full control of those jumpseats they'll have to get the scope back, and the same applies to us. As far as I'm concerned I do not think DAL pilots have any reason to consider any action regarding this, this is something between UAL pilots and the SkyWest and Republic pilots.
10-15-2019, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Baradium
DOH is not industry standard for jumpseating
It removes the "rush to the gate" or not listing for a cabin seat ahead of time in order to beat other pilots on the check-in clock. With Seniority/DOH all that goes away.
Originally Posted by Baradium
My view on this whole thing is that it is the SkyWest and Republic pilots' jumpseat on aircraft they operate. If UAL pilots want full control of those jumpseats...
10-15-2019, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Larry in TN
DOH (longevity) is the standard in the UAL system for pass-travel priority. Seniority, different than DOH due to mergers, for UAL j/s on UAL flight.
It removes the "rush to the gate" or not listing for a cabin seat ahead of time in order to beat other pilots on the check-in clock. With Seniority/DOH all that goes away.
It removes the "rush to the gate" or not listing for a cabin seat ahead of time in order to beat other pilots on the check-in clock. With Seniority/DOH all that goes away.
We can list in advance on a timeline, it sure makes commuting less stressful to know whether you have the primary listing or not days in advance. But things like that go away with a seniority system.
Nothing is changing for the j/s priority on Skywest, Republic, Mesa, or GoJet operated flights. It is still own-metal first, then time-of-check-in for UAL/UAX second, and OAL third.
10-16-2019, 12:50 AM
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If you want us to discuss reciprocal agreements, both united and delta should be addressing the disparity between us and all other airlines. The fact that they can walk up to our gates and list, and we are stuck trying to either call or list online is a fail. Especially with last minute changes. Just my two cents, that is a change I can get behind .
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