Senior Leadership: Outsourcing is Cheaper
11-22-2019, 09:55 AM
#131
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Joined APC: May 2015
Position: A350 Both
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Originally Posted by Kjazz130
Productivity could be VB’s, increased ALV’s/TLV’s, changing reserve flying to ALV+20, paybanding, longer freezes, or taking out PWA restriction and flying to FAR limits. All possibilities, none that I would support, but there are ways of making us more productive.
You can already fly to FAR limits.
How does paybanding increase productivity?
ALV + 20 only hastens the inevitable in the summer. Frankly, I think they are already at the efficiency limit on ALV. Edit: I see you were talking about reserve. Still I don't think there would be much gain there. FAR 117 would hurt that, and fatigue calls would go up.
Longer freezes. One could argue that that would abrogate seniority in a sense. With all the retirements, who would bid a category knowing that in 2 years they could upgrade to a higher paying/bigger/better fleet? It would be interesting to see.
11-22-2019, 09:58 AM
#133
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Position: stake holder ir.delta.com
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Originally Posted by JamesBond
VB is not bad for everybody. I get that many don't like it, but there are probably just as many that would.
11-22-2019, 10:02 AM
#135
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
At least until "their" virtual base was affected by some other virtual base stealing or a real base stealing back "their" flying.
I still maintain that the way it was pulled down was childish and stupid, regardless of the fact that the company didn't follow the rules. It should have been killed before ever being bid if it was so egregious.
The point is moot anyway.
11-22-2019, 12:15 PM
#136
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
This just sealed it. NO PLANS! 
How is that sub fleet different from the Hawaii sub fleet?
How is that sub fleet different from the Hawaii sub fleet?
11-22-2019, 12:26 PM
#137
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Joined APC: Oct 2006
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
What Hawaii subfleet? Last time I looked HNL birds have the same interiors as the domestic birds.
Then the next deliveries will be non ETOPS but similar to JetBlue and AA’s premium transcon product.
So, technically there will be an ETOPS sub fleet.
11-22-2019, 02:18 PM
#138
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Position: Not an RJ driver anymore
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Originally Posted by JamesBond
Yeah we own the flying. It is the sodomiser that allows it. It is a QOL issue.
Last edited by Crown; 11-22-2019 at 02:31 PM.
11-22-2019, 02:19 PM
#139
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
The first 20 NEOs will be standard configuration and ETOPs.
Then the next deliveries will be non ETOPS but similar to JetBlue and AA’s premium transcon product.
So, technically there will be an ETOPS sub fleet.
Then the next deliveries will be non ETOPS but similar to JetBlue and AA’s premium transcon product.
So, technically there will be an ETOPS sub fleet.
11-22-2019, 02:35 PM
#140
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Originally Posted by Crown
if that's the case, I demand that you contact your RCC reps, as well as the ATL reps, on behalf of everyone in SLC, LAX, and SEA, and demand that no ER pilot in either base be allowed to touch Hawaii. Put your money where your mouth is.
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