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12-14-2019 | 09:39 AM

#11

smellson

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There is no incentive to extend.

12-14-2019 | 10:19 AM

#12

m3113n1a1

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It's a cultural thing. I remember my first year here coming from RJs (where we pretty much always refused an extension), I was a little bit shocked when captains always just assumed that we would extend and that I would be fine with it. This isn't always the case and I think the culture here is slowly moving away from automatically assuming the crew will accept an extension.

12-14-2019 | 10:23 AM

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MasterOfPuppets

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tennisguru

finally headed to the airport because the hotel needed our rooms that night.

Whoa hold up here......you left the hotel to go to the airport early because the hotel needed the rooms?

12-14-2019 | 11:22 AM

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m3113n1a1

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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets

Whoa hold up here......you left the hotel to go to the airport early because the hotel needed the rooms?

Right before they accepted an extension and helped load bags!

12-14-2019 | 11:34 AM

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theUpsideDown

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Quote:

Originally Posted by m3113n1a1

Right before they accepted an extension and helped load bags!

What is this? Swa?

12-14-2019 | 12:02 PM

#16

Trip7

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Just my opinion but I think the desire to avoid filling out a fatigue report may subconsciously lean pilots into a "Complete the Mission" state. No other pilot groups have hoops to jump thru after refusing an extension

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12-14-2019 | 12:06 PM

#17

crewdawg

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Trip7

Right, same reason we have to actually call someone to call in sick, rather than a simple check box or something in iCrew.

12-14-2019 | 12:16 PM

#18

CBreezy

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Trip7

Is that also a valid reason to not declare an emergency, because you might have to take 5 minutes to fill out of paperwork?

12-14-2019 | 12:39 PM

#19

vyperdriver

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Sadly, I guess, I was an always extend, mission comes first kind of guy. But now in my 5th year, and suffering a chronically bad short term memory on behalf of crew scheduling and tracking (i.e. the let me scratch your back book of good deeds) I'm now a 99% non extender.

12-14-2019 | 12:39 PM

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crazyjaydawg

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gzsg

Very well stated.

As professionals with hundreds of lives in our hands, the risk is not worth the reward.

The risk is a $1 Billion dollar hull loss and the reward is not visible in our revenue or profits.

What type of airplane do we own is worth $1 billion?

If you’re talking total costs to the company (branding, NPS, etc. ) then, sure, maybe. But to say that a “hull loss” would be $1 billion is a bit of a stretch.