Pilots Extending
12-14-2019 | 12:49 PM
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One of the issues I think is the way that we go about rejoining a trip. Example of a situation I faced:
It’s 11PM and you’re flight is heading to your 30 hour layover on a 4 leg day. You either A) extend. You’ll be tired and get in at 3-4am, and probably won’t be able to get to bed at a decent time to do the next days 5am report, but you get to spend that whole day not flying. Or B) don’t extend. Go to a hotel, only to be given a 10-12 hour layover and then a DH to rejoin you’re layover. Now having to get dressed and do something on what was suppose to essentially be a day of rest for you.
I found this situation in miserable. You don’t want to extend, but you reeallllllyyyy don’t want to have to deal with that DH on a day you should be relaxing...
It’s 11PM and you’re flight is heading to your 30 hour layover on a 4 leg day. You either A) extend. You’ll be tired and get in at 3-4am, and probably won’t be able to get to bed at a decent time to do the next days 5am report, but you get to spend that whole day not flying. Or B) don’t extend. Go to a hotel, only to be given a 10-12 hour layover and then a DH to rejoin you’re layover. Now having to get dressed and do something on what was suppose to essentially be a day of rest for you.
I found this situation in miserable. You don’t want to extend, but you reeallllllyyyy don’t want to have to deal with that DH on a day you should be relaxing...
12-14-2019 | 12:56 PM
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717 and bigger when filled with humans and flying over habitated spaces - considerably greater than a billion in liability. Not many occupations hand over the keys to a 10 figure risk exposure when you clock in!
12-14-2019 | 01:23 PM
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12-14-2019 | 01:51 PM
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Most emergencies declared and that we are encouraged to declare are generally non-life threatening with a less than statistically significant chance of ending that way. If you don't hesitate to declare an emergency for some menial mechanical malfunction, why would you hesitate to extend if you are tired. It's dumb to play fast and loose, especially with fatigue.
12-14-2019 | 02:16 PM
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12-14-2019 | 03:36 PM
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Most emergencies declared and that we are encouraged to declare are generally non-life threatening with a less than statistically significant chance of ending that way. If you don't hesitate to declare an emergency for some menial mechanical malfunction, why would you hesitate to extend if you are tired. It's dumb to play fast and loose, especially with fatigue.
12-14-2019 | 03:54 PM
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Of course it isn't. Saying you don't want to call in fatigued because you don't want to fill out a form is no different hesitating to declare an emergency because of the paperwork. The paperwork is irrelevant to the act. Saying that you don't want to call in fatigued because you might have to spend 2 minutes filling out a form is reckless and lazy. No different than thinking about not declaring an emergency because you might have to fill out a form. And by the way, I have had a captain not want to declare an emergency for that exact scenario.
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