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Old 03-04-2020, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Baradium
The current mortality rate in the US, with a small known number of patients, is 7% not .7%, this is a substantial difference. And this assumes that 100% of sick patients will recover of those currently known. Medical professionals ARE taking this very seriously and are just not talking about probable deaths. I'm involved in EMS and WE are taking it incredibly seriously.

Feel free to re-run your numbers, but pay attention to those decimal points, you should be MUCH more concerned than you are, but maybe a misplaced decimal point is why you seem to take this so lackadaisically.


If this becomes widespread we do not have the hospital beds available to provide high level treatment to the relatively large number of cases that require intensive care.
It's up to 70% transmissible-ity, which means almost all of us will get it, but most of us probably won't even know we have it. However, if you are over 70 with a heart or lung condition, the odds are it will be fatal. The virus has almost no effect on kids.
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Old 03-04-2020, 11:17 AM
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https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/04/united-cutting-flights-in-april-amid-coronavirus-outbreak.html
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Old 03-04-2020, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
It's up to 70% transmissible-ity, which means almost all of us will get it, but most of us probably won't even know we have it. However, if you are over 70 with a heart or lung condition, the odds are it will be fatal. The virus has almost no effect on kids.
Thanks a lot. Now, what do I do with my green bananas?
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Old 03-04-2020, 11:30 AM
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The virus is tearing though a Seattle hospice facility for people with respiratory issues and testing is basically unavailable for people who aren’t going to die from CORVID-19. Of course stats for morbidity are high.

When the CDC gets worried I may. Until then there won’t be much open time for summer at my shop. Good/bad thing as we’re going through contract negotiations.


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Old 03-04-2020, 11:31 AM
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Ed's mother just passed a few days ago. This may have something to do with why he wasn't in attendance.
this is an accurate statement.
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Old 03-04-2020, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Baradium
The current mortality rate in the US, with a small known number of patients, is 7% not .7%, this is a substantial difference. And this assumes that 100% of sick patients will recover of those currently known. Medical professionals ARE taking this very seriously and are just not talking about probable deaths. I'm involved in EMS and WE are taking it incredibly seriously.

Feel free to re-run your numbers, but pay attention to those decimal points, you should be MUCH more concerned than you are, but maybe a misplaced decimal point is why you seem to take this so lackadaisically.


If this becomes widespread we do not have the hospital beds available to provide high level treatment to the relatively large number of cases that require intensive care.
7% huh? Boring days in Alaska lead to pot stirring or what?
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When the CDC gets worried I may.
I don't know if you expect a CDC employee to knock on your door and personally deliver a pamphlet and a message, so in the meantime:

“You may need to take a break from your normal daily routine for two weeks,” Dr. Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, said in a briefing Tuesday.
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I don't know if you expect a CDC employee to knock on your door and personally deliver a pamphlet and a message, so in the meantime:

“You may need to take a break from your normal daily routine for two weeks,” Dr. Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, said in a briefing Tuesday.
They are so worried about it that it only took them two weeks to develop a test to identify the virus in sick patients. And the test doesn’t work. A normal hospital lab was available to develop a working test in two days. That doesn’t seem to me they are very concerned at all.
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Old 03-04-2020, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Nantonaku
They are so worried about it that it only took them two weeks to develop a test to identify the virus in sick patients. And the test doesn’t work. A normal hospital lab was available to develop a working test in two days. That doesn’t seem to me they are very concerned at all.
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Old 03-04-2020, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Baradium
The current mortality rate in the US, with a small known number of patients, is 7% not .7%, this is a substantial difference. And this assumes that 100% of sick patients will recover of those currently known. Medical professionals ARE taking this very seriously and are just not talking about probable deaths. I'm involved in EMS and WE are taking it incredibly seriously.

Feel free to re-run your numbers, but pay attention to those decimal points, you should be MUCH more concerned than you are, but maybe a misplaced decimal point is why you seem to take this so lackadaisically.


If this becomes widespread we do not have the hospital beds available to provide high level treatment to the relatively large number of cases that require intensive care.
You simply cannot take a tiny sample size and scale it up to anything meaningful. By that logic, based on the sock market today, I should be able to retire by the end of the month...

The key phrase is known. The demominator is very likely much larger than we know, meaning the rate gets driven down. But of those cases we do know about, The WHO and CDC are citing a point seven, 0.7%, overall mortality rate outside China, heavily skewed to the elderly. When the CDC tells me to panic, I will. In the meantime, we should all take it seriously, wash our hands, and not panic. And definitely take what every media source says with a grain of salt. Sure, take this more seriously than we typically take the flu, which killed 100 people just today. Underlying conditions, availability of care, standard of care, supportive care available, etc is entirely different than in China. I'm glad EMS is taking it seriously, they should prepare. However, also take a deep breath.

Originally Posted by Mesabah
It's up to 70% transmissible-ity, which means almost all of us will get it, but most of us probably won't even know we have it. However, if you are over 70 with a heart or lung condition, the odds are it will be fatal. The virus has almost no effect on kids.
I get what you are saying, but odds are that you will survive, actually. The over 70 Mortality rate is about 8%. Over 80 is about 20%. You are right about kids and adults up to 40, which is pretty close to the regular flu at .2%.
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