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3 green 03-26-2020 10:40 AM


Originally Posted by CatDad (Post 3012582)
I have a day trip today with a report of 1410 and release of 2135. The legs have been cancelled for a week. It got NOOPed a few days ago and I acknowledged. It is my day 6, having finished a 5-day yesterday, without a 30 hour rest anywhere in there. I’m home with confidence that I am a pumpkin. The way I understand this memo is they could call me at 1410 to assign me something but 12 hours would put me into tomorrow (day 7) and a also an off day. Also also, ending more than 4 hours past my scheduled release.

This is a precursor to what a lot of categories are going to be doing next month..Everyone will be tired of 23K by the end of April for sure.

CatDad 03-26-2020 10:40 AM


Originally Posted by fishforfun (Post 3012629)
Quoting my question and answering it as well. Just spoke to scheduling and they said with the 12 hour after original report issue there is no obligation for 1 day trips. Glad I picked up a few of them for the end of the month :D

good to know. I have a day trip prior to a 5-day next month. I was curious as to how that would work out. I think my schedule is pretty immune to over abuse. Commutable report times with releases of around 0900. Only problem is I’m most likely going to have to cover ewr flying. Will there even be any type of public transit in nyc in a few more weeks?

Abouttime2fish 03-26-2020 10:44 AM

So, if I have a trip noop, put on 23k, then put in a recovery slip, get that trip and it noop’s, I’m done right?

deltabound 03-26-2020 11:10 AM


Originally Posted by 3 green (Post 3012706)
This is a precursor to what a lot of categories are going to be doing next month..Everyone will be tired of 23K by the end of April for sure.

On the bright side, the never ending stream of multiple in flight reroutes coming through the aircraft printer may have solved the toilet paper shortage.

3 green 03-26-2020 12:25 PM

My trips in April that are completely canceled already have 23K on them as of today.

DWC CAP10 USAF 03-26-2020 12:26 PM


Originally Posted by Abouttime2fish (Post 3012712)
So, if I have a trip noop, put on 23k, then put in a recovery slip, get that trip and it noop’s, I’m done right?

I think normally yes, but there is such a thing as Double 23K.

PWA 23.K.1.d.3 Note 2

fishforfun 03-26-2020 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF (Post 3012820)
I think normally yes, but there is such a thing as Double 23K.

PWA 23.K.1.d.3 Note 2

Its not until the third there becomes a problem. Can’t triple stamp a double stamp.

dc10guy 03-26-2020 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by fishforfun (Post 3012629)
Quoting my question and answering it as well. Just spoke to scheduling and they said with the 12 hour after original report issue there is no obligation for 1 day trips. Glad I picked up a few of them for the end of the month :D

are your one days for March.

Abouttime2fish 03-26-2020 01:49 PM


Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF (Post 3012820)
I think normally yes, but there is such a thing as Double 23K.

PWA 23.K.1.d.3 Note 2

ive not seen any mention of double 23k being in affect, that is a very good question.

Scoop 03-26-2020 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF (Post 3012562)
What did the call tell you? That you had been assigned a recovery trip? That you had been placed on 23K? That it was NOOP'd and you had no ogligation?

My rotation was never cancelled, just the first leg which was a red eye out of LAX. The robocall said that my rotation changed. My cancelled flight tonight was replaced with a DH to join my rotation on day 2. Day 2 however was a DH only day so I can DV8 on day 2 to be in position to fly day 3 as scheduled.................until that changes.

Scoop


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