Originally Posted by NuGuy
(Post 3171851)
Which would be specifically incorrect. There’s no time attached to SC other than “promptly available”.
Quit perpetuating that urban legend. |
Originally Posted by NuGuy
(Post 3171851)
Which would be specifically incorrect. There’s no time attached to SC other than “promptly available”.
Quit perpetuating that urban legend. |
Originally Posted by NuGuy
(Post 3171851)
Which would be specifically incorrect. There’s no time attached to SC other than “promptly available”.
Quit perpetuating that urban legend. |
Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 3171918)
It has however been established over tIme and through the grievance process that you need to be within 2 hours via surface transportation under normal conditions. You don’t have to get there in two hours if traffic, parking or other issues come up. This came up years ago with pilots sitting short call in San Diego and Vegas for LAX. The Vegas guys claimed they could fly in with flights every 30 minutes. The SD guys said they could drive it with no traffic in two. Neither worked out.
If that was any kind of limit, you can bet it’d be plastered all over the FOM and other company documents. The fact is it isn’t, and it’s not. |
Originally Posted by tennisguru
(Post 3171913)
I never said 2 hours was a hard and fast limit that is set in stone.
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Originally Posted by NuGuy
(Post 3171930)
Then why bring the number up at all? “Promptly available” is the only term that matters.
ALPA doesn’t like anyone to say 2 hours. It’s like “the number that shall not be spoken”. But everyone should know generally what is acceptable. |
Originally Posted by NuGuy
(Post 3171930)
Then why bring the number up at all? “Promptly available” is the only term that matters.
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
(Post 3171724)
Thanks Sailingfun. I read all that and figured most of it out. What I’m not really sure about is what does “immediately” mean? Do I have to be suited up and on airport standby....at the airport? I live 25 minutes from airport and can be there within 2 hours easy. Because of COVID I currently can park for free in the airport parking garage. That saves another 15 minutes.
Denny Again, this only applies if the trip cancels AFTER you report. This doesn't usually happen with "normal" trips, but of course it can. And yes if you are subject to immediately available obligations, then you need to be a "Widgeteer" in uniform, at the airport.... because the contract says so. But then again you probably already are, since you have already signed in. Now you just get to hang out for a few hours for possible reassignment. This is not the same as "promptly available" which come with the equivalence of short call obligations. If you live local you can sit SC at the house. But in this case (the whole point of this entire thread due to all the Covid cancelations) you would know about the trip removal and 23K obligations in advance. |
If I have a recovery obligation tomorrow starting at 1500, for a 4 day trip, if I put in a GS, can I get one and get paid for it? Or do I have to finish my 6 hours of availability first, and then try to get one?
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Originally Posted by Big E 757
(Post 3172280)
If I have a recovery obligation tomorrow starting at 1500, for a 4 day trip, if I put in a GS, can I get one and get paid for it? Or do I have to finish my 6 hours of availability first, and then try to get one?
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