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Old 03-27-2020, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by fishforfun View Post
Nope, had some pics sent to me of it on a ramp in FL.

It’s routed to do a DTW-SAN turn tomorrow and then RON in ORD.


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Old 03-27-2020, 04:52 PM
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Outstanding response!
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Old 03-27-2020, 05:01 PM
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The airlines actually asked for grants with no strings attached. Instead, the airlines have to give up equity in the airline and some control in order to receive the money. This money won't be nearly enough if this lasts past July, and could bankrupt all of the airlines that take it.
Are you trying to say that carrying redundant employees until Sep 30th would cost more than the $5 Billion grant?
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Old 03-27-2020, 05:04 PM
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OUTSTANDING!!!!

Let them eat cake. Agree 100%. We offered assistance. Good assistance. Follow the contract. We always have too. Why shouldn’t we expect Delta to hold up their end of agreements... lastly and namely LOA 20-01 for instance. Maybe Delta would get more understanding if they didn’t poke us in the eye after signing LOA 20-01. You get what you sow.
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Old 03-27-2020, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Tailhookah View Post
OUTSTANDING!!!!

Let them eat cake. Agree 100%. We offered assistance. Good assistance. Follow the contract. We always have too. Why shouldn’t we expect Delta to hold up their end of agreements... lastly and namely LOA 20-01 for instance. Maybe Delta would get more understanding if they didn’t poke us in the eye after signing LOA 20-01. You get what you sow.
Anyone can see that LOA 20-01 wasn’t going to be the last ask. This is a situation like no other and will require more cooperation with all parties to save as much money and as many jobs as possible. So why on earth would you ask for help, then, like you said, poke us in the eye after providing a concession?
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Old 03-27-2020, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by DeadStick View Post
Are you trying to say that carrying redundant employees until Sep 30th would cost more than the $5 Billion grant?
Delta’s total expenses in 2019 were just over 40 billion. About 15.3 billion of that number are employee expenses. That includes Delta, DGS and PS.
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Old 03-27-2020, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun View Post
Delta’s total expenses in 2019 were just over 40 billion. About 15.3 billion of that number are employee expenses. That includes Delta, DGS and PS.
According to this article we spent $11.2 billion on payroll last year. Considering that included a green slip frenzy and ALVs in the 80s most of the year I think $5 billion for six months should be plenty.

https://seekingalpha.com/amp/article/4334345-delta-air-lines-better-positioned-to-shrink-american-united
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Old 03-27-2020, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by RJ4LIFE View Post
According to this article we spent $11.2 billion on payroll last year. Considering that included a green slip frenzy and ALVs in the 80s most of the year I think $5 billion for six months should be plenty.

https://seekingalpha.com/amp/article/4334345-delta-air-lines-better-positioned-to-shrink-american-united
Its a good article but mentions nothing about Delta's equity stakes in Air France, Aeromexico, GOL, Virgin Atlantic, Korean Air, and China Eastern...I just wonder how those look and effect the balance sheets these days, good or bad...
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Well done MEC! DAL could have saved some money the next two months, but I feel became greedy. Gets back to no one is going to stay home and get paid when other are on leave without pay. I get they would rather see leave without pay, but our skill set is different. Back in 10’ when they over hired and asked guys to do something else, I did my part. But at about 1.5 years into it they were asking me to come back and I did at the 2 year point. That was with Richard and Ed is a different animal. From what I have seen the last few years is, they try to save a penny but then end up spending a dollar. Can’t believe we still had the profits we did!
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Originally Posted by RJ4LIFE View Post
According to this article we spent $11.2 billion on payroll last year. Considering that included a green slip frenzy and ALVs in the 80s most of the year I think $5 billion for six months should be plenty.

https://seekingalpha.com/amp/article/4334345-delta-air-lines-better-positioned-to-shrink-american-united
11.2 does not include DGS or profit sharing. The numbers are in the annual report.
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