MEC Response
03-28-2020, 05:10 AM
#42
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I remember the days when MEMRAT was the sacred right of every Delta pilot. Zealously guarded, fiercely demanded.
Ah, the golden ages of three days ago.
Like a MEC decision? “My MEC speaks for me!”
Don’t like a MEC decision? “Where’s our MEMRAT!!!!”
(I don’t envy the MEC. Lol. Wish them luck though.)
Ah, the golden ages of three days ago.
Like a MEC decision? “My MEC speaks for me!”
Don’t like a MEC decision? “Where’s our MEMRAT!!!!”
(I don’t envy the MEC. Lol. Wish them luck though.)
03-28-2020, 05:16 AM
#43
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Originally Posted by deltabound
I remember the days when MEMRAT was the sacred right of every Delta pilot. Zealously guarded, fiercely demanded.
Ah, the golden ages of three days ago.
Like a MEC decision? “My MEC speaks for me!”
Don’t like a MEC decision? “Where’s our MEMRAT!!!!”
(I don’t envy the MEC. Lol. Wish them luck though.)
Ah, the golden ages of three days ago.
Like a MEC decision? “My MEC speaks for me!”
Don’t like a MEC decision? “Where’s our MEMRAT!!!!”
(I don’t envy the MEC. Lol. Wish them luck though.)
03-28-2020, 05:18 AM
#44
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Originally Posted by DALMD88FO
Maybe you should think about what you are saying before posting. Yes we want MEMRAT if a change significantly changes our PWA. The MEC defended our current PWA and LOA so there was zero to MEMRAT. I'm open to a differing opinion but to come on here saying we should have had MEMRAT for the status quo is ridiculous.
03-28-2020, 05:42 AM
#46
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Originally Posted by DALMD88FO
Maybe you should think about what you are saying before posting. Yes we want MEMRAT if a change significantly changes our PWA. The MEC defended our current PWA and LOA so there was zero to MEMRAT. I'm open to a differing opinion but to come on here saying we should have had MEMRAT for the status quo is ridiculous.
Agree 100%. I engaged all 3 of my reps. Wrote a detailed email on what I expected. They all wrote back and said it was the overwhelming response from the pilot group. There was good communication and they went with the LOA that was already signed. Oh yeah... along with the billions from Uncle Sam as well.
03-28-2020, 05:57 AM
#47
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Originally Posted by deltabound
I remember the days when MEMRAT was the sacred right of every Delta pilot. Zealously guarded, fiercely demanded.
Ah, the golden ages of three days ago.
Ah, the golden ages of three days ago.
It’s interesting to note most pilots don’t understand MEMRAT, or even what this stands for. Indeed, in July of 2015 many MEC members either didn’t understand, or knowingly overlooked (violated) the MEC Policy Manual on membership ratification when they served up TA2015 to the pilots. It was a policy manual that, by then, had been quietly, perhaps unbeknownst to many on the MEC (or subsequent MECs), rewritten under the Moak administration in the merging of DAL/NWA MECs in 2007/2008. Certainly not all issues require MEMRAT, but the MEC must at least have the debate, and the meeting minutes and a resolution should reflect that debate.
The Moak language took away the voice of the pilots in everything except Section 6 and also departed significantly from the original DAL MEC Policy Manual which had been aligned with the ALPA (National) Constitution and ByLaws. That “rewritten” policy manual - which brought you joint venture, FAR117, TA2012...and almost TA2015 - has since been restored after local LEC resolutions beginning in SEA and ending in committee.
It’s easy to vent and opine on forums; it takes much more time to read and understand meeting minutes, policy manuals and resolutions. Inconvenient for most, but it’s is necessary in maintaining and protecting your voice.
03-28-2020, 06:01 AM
#48
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Originally Posted by RJ4LIFE
The irony of all of this is that in an effort to downplay the importance of a union to the other work groups, the company actually managed to do the exact opposite.
03-28-2020, 06:06 AM
#49
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Originally Posted by DALMD88FO
Yes we want MEMRAT if a change significantly changes our PWA. The MEC defended our current PWA and LOA so there was zero to MEMRAT. I'm open to a differing opinion but to come on here saying we should have had MEMRAT for the status quo is ridiculous.
03-28-2020, 06:10 AM
#50
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Originally Posted by Han Solo
But will they be smart enough to realize that, or once again fall for the company propaganda on DLnet and blame the pilot group for all their woes?
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