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Old 03-28-2020, 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by deltabound View Post
I remember the days when MEMRAT was the sacred right of every Delta pilot. Zealously guarded, fiercely demanded.

Ah, the golden ages of three days ago.


Like a MEC decision? “My MEC speaks for me!”

Don’t like a MEC decision? “Where’s our MEMRAT!!!!”

(I don’t envy the MEC. Lol. Wish them luck though.)
Ratification only applies to a major change in the contract. Did I miss something?
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Old 03-28-2020, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun View Post
Ratification only applies to a major change in the contract. Did I miss something?
Yes, you did. Sigh.

Countless hours, thousands of posts...but most pilots will remain uninformed, never taking the time to research and understand the processes and policies of their own MEC.

The Delta MEC Policy Manual is available on the DALPA website, as are meeting minutes, resolutions and such.

Your MEC waived (Section 9) requirements for both MEMRAT and, understandably, “time in hand” for LOA 20-10. But indeed, they did consider and vote, which under the MEC “Moak Manual” (2007/8 Edition), would not have been required.

The post-Moak Era procedures and policies (MEC Policy Manual Section 9) currently in place include “when change to the PWA is contemplated...” (“major” does not appear in the PM in this context).

Section 6 collective bargaining shall always require MEMRAT. “All other amendments,” including LOAs “shall be subject” (9.B.1.b) to MEMRAT, or an additional process that allows consideration for it (9.B.1.c).

Prior to the Moak Era, there was a record of resolutions and meeting minutes showing the MEC always, at least, held the debate/vote considering PWA changes, as to whether they met the former threshold of being a “substantial” change. Note: Substantial change...is no longer in PM, though it’s roots, from the ALPA C&BL, remain.

Again, I encourage all pilots to read and understand what’s going on...more facts, less forum.
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Old 03-28-2020, 01:57 PM
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I just looked at the KLOAs posted for May-July. It looks like management believes that this is not going to last too long as the number of available leaves drops off quite a bit by July, if I'm reading it correctly.
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Old 03-28-2020, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by SideSticker View Post
I just looked at the KLOAs posted for May-July. It looks like management believes that this is not going to last too long as the number of available leaves drops off quite a bit by July, if I'm reading it correctly.
Sort of, since all currently offered leaves must start in May. There’s nothing to stop them from offering more leaves of any length starting in June or July.
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