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konabear 04-04-2020 07:52 AM


Originally Posted by weekendflyer (Post 3023103)
The trips are in open time now

The bid packages are on Deltanet. Not many trips.

Bluto 04-04-2020 07:54 AM

So, are they ready to reconsider their ridiculous position on SILs now?

Phins2right 04-04-2020 08:01 AM


Originally Posted by Bluto (Post 3023119)
So, are they ready to reconsider their ridiculous position on SILs now?

I would like to think so, but I doubt it. They want ALV gives from us. Reference EB's latest email about how we are burning 60 million/day. The management team has a brilliant messaging group - it's what made us the most profitable. They are turning that team on us now. Question is will we crumble? IDK. SILs are just common sense. Their reaction to them is telling in many ways. We'll see how this sorts out.

weekendflyer 04-04-2020 08:03 AM


Originally Posted by Bluto (Post 3023119)
So, are they ready to reconsider their ridiculous position on SILs now?

Yea at 0 hours a month :eek:, I’ll take my 72 and do nothing until they come to their senses!

deltabound 04-04-2020 08:10 AM

Wow. That is a bid packet for a much, MUCH smaller airline.

Speaking for SLC, with that level of service, it doesn't even make sense to have a base here.

Wonder if this place makes it through June? I know CARES says Oct 1 before furlough and BK ain't "allowed", but if the money is gone, it's gone.

Fun times.

Humboldt 04-04-2020 08:44 AM

Wow. The 330 has one page of flying in SEA. Never thought of this before, 330 ALV is 81:18 and reserve guarantee is 79:18. Must be due to long leg lengths. Paying 100% of the 330 reserve guys at 79:18? Yeah, SILs didn't make any financial sense, for us....

TurbineDriver 04-04-2020 08:50 AM


Originally Posted by Humboldt (Post 3023196)
Wow. The 330 has one page of flying in SEA. Never thought of this before, 330 ALV is 81:18 and reserve guarantee is 79:18. Must be due to long leg lengths. Paying 100% of the 330 reserve guys at 79:18? Yeah, SILs didn't make any financial sense, for us....

why in the world would ALVs be that high??!

DARR31 04-04-2020 09:00 AM

I see the optimizer was building the trips again. 3 leg days, almost 8 hrs of block and some with 5 hr sits! I guess they figure if they make it painful enough, maybe some of us will give up and take a PLOA. Might have to try for reserve next month....

Myfingershurt 04-04-2020 09:05 AM


Originally Posted by DARR31 (Post 3023217)
I see the optimizer was building the trips again. 3 leg days, almost 8 hrs of block and some with 5 hr sits! I guess they figure if they make it painful enough, maybe some of us will give up and take a PLOA. Might have to try for reserve next month....

bingo. Atl 320 pairings are mostly 1 and 2 day trips. 0 trips longer than 3 days. Making it hurt for commuters to push them to a p/kloa.

iaflyer 04-04-2020 09:23 AM


Originally Posted by Humboldt (Post 3023196)
Wow. The 330 has one page of flying in SEA. Never thought of this before, 330 ALV is 81:18 and reserve guarantee is 79:18. Must be due to long leg lengths. Paying 100% of the 330 reserve guys at 79:18? Yeah, SILs didn't make any financial sense, for us....

The A's are - the B ALV is 77:30... but still high for the low flying I expected.


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