The Case For No Involuntary Furloughs
04-11-2020 | 05:33 AM
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This virus is to me like a roaring inferno that's already decimated my acreage and is swiftly approaching the house (that would be Ch 7 liquidation). We need to save the house. Once the inferno is past then we can once again argue over the upgrades we were discussing earlier. If the house is reduced to ashes then there's not much future upgrades to worry about is there?
04-11-2020 | 05:34 AM
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That said I get the impression that we are all a bit cavalier. This virus is to me like a roaring inferno that's already decimated my acreage and is swiftly approaching the house (that would be Ch 7 liquidation). We need to save the house. Once the inferno is past then we can once again argue over the upgrades we were discussing earlier. If the house is reduced to ashes then there's not much future upgrades to worry about is there?
04-11-2020 | 05:35 AM
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Perhaps that delay allows the fire department and air tankers to arrive.
04-11-2020 | 05:41 AM
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Clever solutions that give the pilot group real permanent value...kind of like LOA 20-01...is what we need to emphasize.
04-11-2020 | 05:42 AM
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The company is talking money in the range of 6 months to 2-3 years down the road.
ALV reduction gives them an extra 1-2 days of liquidity...not even in the same ball park.
04-11-2020 | 05:44 AM
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But their counter point(as it was 18 years ago) will be, “let’s not try to fly a square corner. Give a little now so you don’t have to give a lot later”. They will then bring up the real life example of, “when did you start saving for your kids college? Did you save $200 month for 18 years or wait until they were driving off to their dream college before asking yourself, “how much do I have to save per month now?”
Both are valid and have merit, but for now, I am in the camp of slow down, let this play out until they reopen the economy and we see what kind of rebound is happening.
04-11-2020 | 05:53 AM
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Good point. I think we all, pilots, noncons and mgmt can work together to get through this, but we need to. That means we avoid both extremes. We don't just hand mgmt a signed, blank check and say "fill in the amount." But I don't think "full pay till the last day!" accomplishes a whole lot either.
But their counter point(as it was 18 years ago) will be, “let’s not try to fly a square corner. Give a little now so you don’t have to give a lot later”. They will then bring up the real life example of, “when did you start saving for your kids college? Did you save $200 month for 18 years or wait until they were driving off to their dream college before asking yourself, “how much do I have to save per month now?”
04-11-2020 | 06:01 AM
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From: Kickin’ Back
“No pilot shall be placed on furlough within 90 days of the company operating under the reduced ALV of this LOA or 90 days after 1 oct 2020 whichever is later. Any pilot placed on furlough status within 1 year of the company operating under a reduced ALV shall receive 6 months furlough pay. Force Majeure shall not apply to this provision”
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