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Old 06-15-2020, 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by MOTOJOE
will the higher amount show back up in icrew time card
Your timecard will show pay and credit for your reserve obligation and just pay for the training. You need to add them together to get total pay for the month. It works the same as vacation in a reserve month.

67:30 + 8 = 75:30 pay for the month.

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Old 06-15-2020, 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
Your timecard will show pay and credit for your reserve obligation and just pay for the training. You need to add them together to get total pay for the month. It works the same as vacation in a reserve month.

67:30 + 8 = 75:30 pay for the month.

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I feel sheepish. Lol. Thnx!
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Old 06-15-2020, 08:36 AM
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This is good stuff for all of us. Some haven't been on reserve for years, so a 'how to read a RES timecard' might be a good tool.
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Old 06-15-2020, 08:37 AM
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Is it not normal for widebody guys at delta to let their landings expire? At AA guys love it and sit around for a while until they call them In to the sim. It’s like a free mini vacation.

edit: this was all very common to not be current before the chinavirus. Widebody guys have always gamed the system to not be current.
You can certainly do that and I'm sure there are some that do, but they're generally pretty good about getting your bounces before you expire. Aside from that, at least on the 330, they're all pretty good about getting everyone their landings. The captain generally decides who gets the landings, and more often than not, they check everyone's currencies to see who needs them the most. My last 3 day before this madness, the captain gave both the landings to us FOs because he was good. Lots of guys avoid going to ATL at all costs so they don't like going non-current.
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Old 06-15-2020, 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by crewdawg
This is one of main reasons I never trust the reserves available chart. I've thought I had top cover then get assigned a trip. Took a peak at the schedule of the guy above me and he had a recency sim just like kylie scenario. I think it will do the same if you have reserve in either side of CQ. I actually didnt mind becuase it was a nice 3 day 30 hr SAN layover, I was just wondering what was up with the reserves available chart.
Similar situation here. Just took a look to see if I was safe from an open trip. Reserve available list showed one person in line ahead of me for that trip. Quick glance at his schedule shows that pilot's recency is expired. So reserve list shows available, but really he isn't. What's the point?
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Old 06-15-2020, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by StartngOvr
Similar situation here. Just took a look to see if I was safe from an open trip. Reserve available list showed one person in line ahead of me for that trip. Quick glance at his schedule shows that pilot's recency is expired. So reserve list shows available, but really he isn't. What's the point?
Dunno, it's not so helpful. Example: I'm on a 30 hour break, from midnight today until 6am tomorrow. I show on the reserve availability list as on LC the whole time.
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Old 06-15-2020, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by iaflyer
Dunno, it's not so helpful. Example: I'm on a 30 hour break, from midnight today until 6am tomorrow. I show on the reserve availability list as on LC the whole time.
That's weird. I'm currently on 30/7 rest also, but available times on the list are accurate for me. Must be a manual process breaking down somewhere. Garbage in, garbage out I guess.
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Old 06-15-2020, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by crewdawg
You can certainly do that and I'm sure there are some that do, but they're generally pretty good about getting your bounces before you expire. Aside from that, at least on the 330, they're all pretty good about getting everyone their landings. The captain generally decides who gets the landings, and more often than not, they check everyone's currencies to see who needs them the most. My last 3 day before this madness, the captain gave both the landings to us FOs because he was good. Lots of guys avoid going to ATL at all costs so they don't like going non-current.
So a captain will take away a landing from a lineholder first officer and give it to the FB/FC? (not sure what that’s called at delta, we call the 2nd/3rd officer FB/FC).

Can they turn down the landing? That would defeat the purpose of senior guys bidding FB/FC.
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Old 06-15-2020, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Saabs
So a captain will take away a landing from a lineholder first officer and give it to the FB/FC? (not sure what that’s called at delta, we call the 2nd/3rd officer FB/FC).

Can they turn down the landing? That would defeat the purpose of senior guys bidding FB/FC.
We don't do any of that "bidding" a specific position here - yes, there are separate trips for the second FO, but it does not come into consideration of who's flying. The extra FO position doesn't go senior or junior, it just "is". Landings are determined by who needs one, and Captain preference. Some Captains don't care if one or both of the FOs need a landing, but they are the 5% of guys that are pains anyway.

What I've found is that on a typical three day international trip to Europe or South America, the Captain takes the leg out of the US, and one of the FOs brings it back, generally who needs the landing the most.
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Old 06-15-2020, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by iaflyer
We don't do any of that "bidding" a specific position here - yes, there are separate trips for the second FO, but it does not come into consideration of who's flying. The extra FO position doesn't go senior or junior, it just "is". Landings are determined by who needs one, and Captain preference. Some Captains don't care if one or both of the FOs need a landing, but they are the 5% of guys that are pains anyway.

What I've found is that on a typical three day international trip to Europe or South America, the Captain takes the leg out of the US, and one of the FOs brings it back, generally who needs the landing the most.
Gotcha. Just trying to understand. I guess we do it very differently over here. Not saying one is right or wrong, just differently. I guess I’m just confused on why the captain cares who needs a landing when guys love to dequal for extra time off.
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