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Old 06-16-2020, 03:31 PM
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My recency strategy is not to be recent as I go UNA in August. I hit 90 days on 20 June, nothing scheduled thus far as I am on golden X days 18,19, 20. Maybe I will/will not get extension to 20 July. I'm on reserve for July so it will be interesting to see what they decide to do with me. I don't see them wasting the sim time to get me bounces when I go UNA on 1 August.
I go UNA along with my sim partner on 2JUL.

June was the "should go" month for CQ. We were both legal through July.

At a min, 4 nights in the hotel, 4 legs of "we bumped paying customers to get you here" and three sim periods and two of them with Seat Fill A's (FO/FO CQ)

They had us both do CQ.
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Old 06-16-2020, 03:39 PM
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I go UNA along with my sim partner on 2JUL.

June was the "should go" month for CQ. We were both legal through July.

At a min, 4 nights in the hotel, 4 legs of "we bumped paying customers to get you here" and three sim periods and two of them with Seat Fill A's (FO/FO CQ)

They had us both do CQ.
That's crazy. Hearing stuff like this...makes me question if they really know what the heck they are doing with us on the personnel side. 'Cause you and I ain't coming back to fly the ER anytime soon. Unless there is some obscure FAA reg that requires them do this, doesn't make sense whatsoever.

Of course could also be the ultimate middle finger as they send us to UNA then furlough. Here, take one more hate boogie on VA Ave before we ****can you. Thanks for playing - game over.

Take care CX.
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Old 06-16-2020, 04:12 PM
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Well, I went non-current as of 0001 on 13Jun20. No extension noted and I showed 'Expired.'

This afternoon I logged into iCrew to see what my July time card looked like and I get a new pop-up asking for 14 days of availability for currency sim. I showed 'Expired' for at least 2 days before the company applied the extension. My questions is one of legality: can the company apply an extension after I show expired?

Like the difference between RCY and RECY sim training, one is used before you expire and one is used after. What are the ramifications of actually showing expired and then...voila...you're no longer expired.

Like Drum and CX500T I'm getting the boot from 7ER in November. The difference for me is I'm just going to a different AC as opposed to UNA (sorry guys).
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Old 06-16-2020, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Drum View Post
That's crazy. Hearing stuff like this...makes me question if they really know what the heck they are doing with us on the personnel side. 'Cause you and I ain't coming back to fly the ER anytime soon. Unless there is some obscure FAA reg that requires them do this, doesn't make sense whatsoever.

Of course could also be the ultimate middle finger as they send us to UNA then furlough. Here, take one more hate boogie on VA Ave before we ****can you. Thanks for playing - game over.

Take care CX.
It is insane. If the training dept is so hosed, with only SLIs on hand, and not even all of them, and they have to push this turd through the Sim Building Snake, that would have freed up enough sim time to do 3 events for people actually needing the ER qual.

I will likely never touch a 757/767 again.

Driving home tonight from going out for a ride to get out of the house, I told my wife, I have likely gone to work for the last time until at least November 2021. Work for Delta anyways. I'm not dropping my mil leave in the system until I actually get orders in my hand, but it looks like I'm on 330 day orders starting the end of November. When I come back, I'm 3 days from Mandatory Retirement unless they waive the 20 year max for an O-4. (got passed over for O-5 again, shocking)

So basically I'm looking at 15-18 months out of the cockpit, and if we don't recall back to me before I come off mil leave, I'm going to be non current for flying jobs. Hopefully the oil field recovers, because that was my "normal" backup plan to go back to the oil patch or pipelining, because usually when the airlines crashed, it was either because of high oil prices, or whatever caused them to crash also drove oil prices high.
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Old 06-16-2020, 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by captkdobbs View Post
Well, I went non-current as of 0001 on 13Jun20. No extension noted and I showed 'Expired.'

This afternoon I logged into iCrew to see what my July time card looked like and I get a new pop-up asking for 14 days of availability for currency sim. I showed 'Expired' for at least 2 days before the company applied the extension. My questions is one of legality: can the company apply an extension after I show expired?

Like the difference between RCY and RECY sim training, one is used before you expire and one is used after. What are the ramifications of actually showing expired and then...voila...you're no longer expired.

Like Drum and CX500T I'm getting the boot from 7ER in November. The difference for me is I'm just going to a different AC as opposed to UNA (sorry guys).
Welcome to the club. No idea if it's legal but it IS happening.
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Old 06-16-2020, 06:12 PM
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Welcome to the club. No idea if it's legal but it IS happening.
Yup, thanks for the heads up by the way. I wouldn't have even been checking if I hadn't read your posts. I owe you a beer if we ever fly together.
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Yup, thanks for the heads up by the way. I wouldn't have even been checking if I hadn't read your posts. I owe you a beer if we ever fly together.
Anytime! Mama always said, "Never turn down free beer!"
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Old 06-17-2020, 04:52 AM
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I expire on the 19th. Assigned this morning to regain currency on the 23rd. Also scheduled for CQ end of July and projected to go UNA August 1. 🤷🏼‍♂️

My naturally optimistic self wants to see it as good news that they’re still making me current despite future projections, a sign that there’s hope things turn around. But then I’m as equally reminded that this could all be the wheels of the machine running on auto pilot with no human input. I really don’t know what to think.
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Old 06-17-2020, 05:03 AM
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It is insane. If the training dept is so hosed, with only SLIs on hand, and not even all of them, and they have to push this turd through the Sim Building Snake, that would have freed up enough sim time to do 3 events for people actually needing the ER qual.

I will likely never touch a 757/767 again.

Driving home tonight from going out for a ride to get out of the house, I told my wife, I have likely gone to work for the last time until at least November 2021. Work for Delta anyways. I'm not dropping my mil leave in the system until I actually get orders in my hand, but it looks like I'm on 330 day orders starting the end of November. When I come back, I'm 3 days from Mandatory Retirement unless they waive the 20 year max for an O-4. (got passed over for O-5 again, shocking)

So basically I'm looking at 15-18 months out of the cockpit, and if we don't recall back to me before I come off mil leave, I'm going to be non current for flying jobs. Hopefully the oil field recovers, because that was my "normal" backup plan to go back to the oil patch or pipelining, because usually when the airlines crashed, it was either because of high oil prices, or whatever caused them to crash also drove oil prices high.
I hear ya CX.

I'm glad you got full time orders lined up - that's awesome. I think you'll be fine on the other side of this. I concur, don't drop mil leave until you got orders in hand.

I've got my backup "job" setup. It pays like crap (like first year regional FO wages) but it will potentially open some doors for me. I registered to start my CDL training at a local school on 1 Sept. It's about a 4 week course. Have family in the industry, one is director of safety at one of the largest trucking companies in the country. talked to him and once I get the CDL he'll get me in to their training program. So if it all comes unglued, I'll go drive a truck for a few years and consult while on the road. I have my mil retirement, TRICARE, and my furlough fund to tap as well. House is refinanced, so we've done about all we can to prepare for the furlough.

Maybe we'll see each other in the sim when we get recalled. Take care CX.
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Old 06-17-2020, 05:27 AM
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I used to have a class A CDL, with pretty much every endorsement. Dad owned a small trucking company, so I grew up knowing his to drive Semis before I even got my learner's permit.

Dropped it when Wyoming kept on suspending my license for no medical even though I had given them the copy, in person.

Probably was a mistake to drop it. Hoping orders outlast furlough. I'm pretty sure I'm not picking CDR up on my sixth look, so I dont really have reseve options beyond next October.

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