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05-30-2020, 01:46 PM

#701

Jaww

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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano

Yep. And the usual suspects on FB are suggesting concessions on top of this massive displacement bid. I think a 30% pay cut is enough.

Delta was prepared to work years under the old contract before. Now I am too.

05-30-2020, 02:19 PM

#702

NoDeskJob

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Originally Posted by Jaww

Delta was prepared to work years under the old contract before. Now I am too.

heck yeah! Me too.
no concessions

05-30-2020, 02:36 PM

#703

popcopy

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Hold on a sec. With regards to UNA. Let’s say the UNA number is 2800. Does that mean 2800 ACTIVE pilots? Or 2800 ALL pilots? There are 300ish pilots on the list in the bottom 2800 who are MIL or SIC or other.

05-30-2020, 02:42 PM

#704

4fans

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Originally Posted by popcopy

I just assumed, perhaps poorly, that if the cutoff was 12k-12100 before, and now it is 300 more then it would be 300 below the previous BS projection.

Personally, I think it would be really odd for them to add 300 more to the UNA, but who the heck knows. I hope it was all a bluff and there are no UNA.

05-30-2020, 02:49 PM

#705

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Originally Posted by popcopy

The way I read that is: (with rounded numbers)
14700 total
-1470 inactive (just a 10% wag)
13230
-2800 unassigned
10430 awarded positions
Assuming the 10% of inactive pilots thrown back in would make the cutoff around 11,500. BS had stated previously that the UNA cutoff was around 12,000-12,100.

The mystery to me is if any upcoming retirees are included in that number because the email that came out said #71 was a UNA!?

05-30-2020, 03:28 PM

#706

FL370esq

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Originally Posted by Roper92

The mystery to me is if any upcoming retirees are included in that number because the email that came out said #71 was a UNA!?

I think that was a poorly illustrated point made by BS. I suspect what he was trying to say is that #71 (CVG73NA) did not have enough (i.e., any) MDs in. Because there is no "next lower" category in CVG, he would fall under the second prong of 22.F.14 - which says that a pilot "will, at Company option, be assigned into any position at another base that his seniority would permit him to hold." That pilot would seem to be UNA until the company manually places him into any position that his seniority allows which, at #71, is any open category. I hope he isn't one of the rumored "12" that didn't have enough in. Of course, he is retiring in July and they have to convert CVG73NA out of the category in inverse seniority order so he will be lonnnnng retired before that even became an issue.