Early Out,Retirement,Furlough Negotiation
06-24-2020, 12:45 PM
#471
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Originally Posted by BobZ
Probably a company discretion on award.
06-24-2020, 12:50 PM
#472
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Originally Posted by Aviator147
New Projected Conversions, looks like all UNAs are converted by Oct 1 now. There was a big chunk of NYC 220Bs who originally converted in Spring of 2021. Now all by October. Seems to me that the 220 would need to be parked in order to full re-staff it. More FUD?
06-24-2020, 12:55 PM
#473
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Originally Posted by waldo135
Just checked deltanet. The latest Conversion List was posted 2 June. Where is this new list?
06-24-2020, 12:56 PM
#474
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Originally Posted by Aviator147
New Projected Conversions, looks like all UNAs are converted by Oct 1 now. There was a big chunk of NYC 220Bs who originally converted in Spring of 2021. Now all by October. Seems to me that the 220 would need to be parked in order to full re-staff it. More FUD?
06-24-2020, 01:11 PM
#475
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Originally Posted by clear4approach
Yeah, I was wondering the same thing. If furloughs happen in inverse seniority order, regardless of aircraft assignment, what's the play here?
06-24-2020, 01:22 PM
#476
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Originally Posted by Funk
I’m not fully aware of all the events you’re considering as you work target date backwards to the next reasonable deadline (I am genuinely curious), but ’m not sure the company is fully aware of the training deadline implications. Consider the haste to publish and close the MOAD, and that it probably weakened the company’s position relative to the pilot group. The company is now staring down a training bill that is expensive in time and resources, and INCREDIBLY complex when it comes to maintaining operational integrity. Making the downward waterfall work without potentially crippling some BES combos so that you can furlough pilots from the bottom quickly enough to get short and medium term savings is much harder than I think they anticipated it would be. Then there is the specter of 14,xxx pilots being upset over (pick your favorite gripe regarding the MOAD). Etc. Etc. Etc. In summary, forward strategic thinking about manning and deadlines hasn’t been a demonstrated forte of the company of late.
You would think that if you had to eat an elephant by yourself before it begins to spoil that you’d start chewing right away, but that doesn’t seem to be happening. I did bounces to reestablish currency today, and they haven’t recalled the SLIs that were previously sent to the line, nor have they recalled the DGS (or whatever this week’s company is called) instructors either. As I mentioned elsewhere, it’s tiny snapshot on my fleet (737), but it doesn’t appear that the gears are even close to being in motion to support the MOAD.
You would think that if you had to eat an elephant by yourself before it begins to spoil that you’d start chewing right away, but that doesn’t seem to be happening. I did bounces to reestablish currency today, and they haven’t recalled the SLIs that were previously sent to the line, nor have they recalled the DGS (or whatever this week’s company is called) instructors either. As I mentioned elsewhere, it’s tiny snapshot on my fleet (737), but it doesn’t appear that the gears are even close to being in motion to support the MOAD.
This EO is gona drop.it will likely have nearterm deadline to allow at least sept training to schedule. Oct at the latest.
The logic for these dates has been chewed on here already. The EO will drop in days. Likely furlough notices will go out iow pwa.
The EO closes by 7/31 and with new #s in hand phase II and furlough mitigation agreement will be arrived at.
In this job the only certainty is uncertainty. Change to the status quo is a given.
06-24-2020, 02:17 PM
#480
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On another forum a Rep says its with the Company now. The MEC doesn’t have anything formal to vote on yet. MEC is expecting it this week but need the formal language and when they get that is up to the Company.
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