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FL370esq 05-31-2020 07:08 AM


Originally Posted by GogglesPisano (Post 3067495)
The advantage is 70% of the pilot group averages a 20% pay cut starting July 1.

How does 70% of the pilot group average a 20% paycut starting on July 2nd? (July 1st is still in the June bid period). I highly doubt they will convert 70% of the pilot group on July 2nd to lower paying categories. Not sure how we could run our albeit greatly reduced schedule with all those pilots in an NQAT status.

RonRicco 05-31-2020 07:22 AM


Originally Posted by FL370esq (Post 3067497)
How does 70% of the pilot group average a 20% paycut starting on July 2nd? (July 1st is still in the June bid period). I highly doubt they will convert 70% of the pilot group on July 2nd to lower paying categories. Not sure how we could run our albeit greatly reduced schedule with all those pilots in an NQAT status.

I was wondering the same thing. That would make them converted but NQ would it not?

BobZ 05-31-2020 07:29 AM

Maybe its a diabolically genius plan....to force our customers to buy brand X so they will appreciate our product that much more and gladly come back and pay that premium upcharge?

Im wondering with all this activity in the streets if we can officially call the lockdowns as over?

deltabound 05-31-2020 07:32 AM


Originally Posted by BobZ (Post 3067503)
Maybe its a diabolically genius plan....to force our customers to buy brand X so they will appreciate our product that much more and gladly come back and pay that premium upcharge?

Im wondering with all this activity in the streets if we can officially call the lockdowns as over?

I see the “Daily Death Trackers” on the “news” channels are pretty much gone. So, yup. Riots = cure Covid.

Didn’t see that one coming.

FL370esq 05-31-2020 07:32 AM


Originally Posted by RonRicco (Post 3067502)
I was wondering the same thing. That would make them converted but NQ would it not?

It would - for those who require training, anyway. And, if you are converted to your new (lower paying) category, you can no longer fly in your current category. There is no doubt that the July 2nd Conversion list will be extensive but I just don't see it being that extensive.

notEnuf 05-31-2020 07:42 AM


Originally Posted by MadDogMikeATL (Post 3067470)
Wasn't intended as a joke, and not how you get that suggestion from my post. What I'm saying is that, rather than this bid being used simply to position staffing for summer 2022, perhaps they are displacing more than is needed with the goal of converting thousands of pilots to lower-paying positions with no intention of actually training them. Then, when demand rebounds, run another AE and then train pilots where they are needed. Pure speculation, that's all.

That was my assumption all along. So I bid highest paying position and assumed I would bid out or reinstate before I trained. Either way I wont be working for less. Sitting around for less seems acceptable for now. Early conversions could work in my favor because I was sitting on a lot of seat seniority that will be spent on category now.

casual observer 05-31-2020 07:43 AM


Originally Posted by deltabound (Post 3067504)
I see the “Daily Death Trackers” on the “news” channels are pretty much gone. So, yup. Riots = cure Covid.

Didn’t see that one coming.

Yesterday: How dare greedy small business owners try to open their businesses, putting their profits over the safety of the people in this pandemic. The blood is on their hands. Arrest them and put them in jail.

Today: There’s a massive crowd of ‘protesters’ looting, burning and destroying small businesses. Who can blame them. Let’s give them the latitude they need to express themselves. We should probably start a fund to bail out anyone who gets arrested. Corona what?

I’m starting to believe the fake news thing.

PilotJ3 05-31-2020 07:52 AM


Originally Posted by casual observer (Post 3067510)
Yesterday: How dare greedy small business owners try to open their businesses, putting their profits over the safety of the people in this pandemic. The blood is on their hands. Arrest them and put them in jail.

Today: There’s a massive crowd of ‘protesters’ looting, burning and destroying small businesses. Who can blame them. Let’s give them the latitude they need to express themselves. We should probably start a fund to bail out anyone who gets arrested. Corona what?

I’m starting to believe the fake news thing.


Remember...the media is also a business. There’s no news anymore, only opinions. Every media outlet profits from sensationalism.

You can’t have a 24/7 news station, if there’s nothing to report.

BobZ 05-31-2020 07:56 AM


Originally Posted by PilotJ3 (Post 3067513)
Remember...the media is also a business. There’s no news anymore, only opinions. Every media outlet profits from sensationalism.

You can’t have a 24/7 news station, if there’s nothing to report.

Wouldnt that be a hoot?

"No bad news tonight folks, so now we cut to cute puppy videos instead of our regular programming'...

WhiskeyDelta 05-31-2020 08:02 AM

It’s out boys and girls!


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