September AE
09-10-2020, 11:20 AM
#791
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Joined APC: Jul 2018
Posts: 260
This right here the AE literally said all 1,941 will be excluded. If people still seriously thinks the company is not playing games with us idk what else they are doing. They just keep adding stress levels to all us UNA/potential furloughees
09-10-2020, 11:20 AM
#792
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Joined APC: Dec 2019
Posts: 193
Junior Capt in ATL on reinstatement was a 2014 hire . Junior Capt on AE in ATL is a 2007 hire (mid 2000 hire for NWA). Break line in ATL for A was virtually on the last class before furlough on the DAL side. Not sure when NWA stopped hiring in 01 or how many they hired.
09-10-2020, 11:21 AM
#793
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Joined APC: Sep 2015
Position: UNA
Posts: 4,466
My understanding of BS's post, 505 Una is of the whole pilot group. Seems this AE was run without the thought of furlough in mind. The amount they furlough October 1 will be based on present negotiation and or cares2. If you're not furloughed this AE stands. If you're in the 505, and not furloughed another AE coming out in October will place you somewhere.
09-10-2020, 11:25 AM
#794
Roll’n Thunder
Joined APC: Oct 2009
Position: Pilot
Posts: 3,636
No there are people like me from the 1941 who are supposed to be UNA, but still haven't converted and are still flying, but weren't senior enough to hold a reinstatement and thus are still in limbo. People junior to me in other categories were reinstated.
09-10-2020, 11:28 AM
#795
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Joined APC: Apr 2018
Posts: 3,085
Edit: and so will those junior to you who were artificially reinstated.
Last edited by m3113n1a1; 09-10-2020 at 11:40 AM.
09-10-2020, 11:32 AM
#796
Line Holder
Joined APC: Feb 2010
Posts: 88
I did not and that's my error. I was quick to jump on here and say WTF before carefully revisiting what I did. I had haphazardly gone through the bid card because of the line "Because junior pilots will receive furlough notification shortly (all pilots hired on, or after July 17, 2017 will receive a furlough notice), and will be excluded from this bid" found in the third paragraph of the AE notice.
That is why after my initial post most of my frustration has been around the question of: why was anyone from the 1941 reinstated or awarded anything? The line from the AE memo seems pretty clear that the 1941 should not expect their names on the AE results at all.
That is why after my initial post most of my frustration has been around the question of: why was anyone from the 1941 reinstated or awarded anything? The line from the AE memo seems pretty clear that the 1941 should not expect their names on the AE results at all.
09-10-2020, 11:32 AM
#797
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Joined APC: Jun 2015
Posts: 3,127
09-10-2020, 11:49 AM
#798
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jul 2013
Posts: 78
I was assigned UNA and marked to convert in Oct. but was one of the 600 saved. My category still exists however I was not reinstated in the AE. Nothing shows for future category in icrew and I’m able to bid in Oct for my old category...
09-10-2020, 11:55 AM
#799
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Joined APC: Apr 2018
Posts: 3,085
They're just going to push your conversion date far back, and you'll probably get awarded something in the next AE and never actually convert to UNA.
09-10-2020, 12:12 PM
#800
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Joined APC: Feb 2010
Posts: 2,293
How will we be treated in the AE? People junior to me got reinstated to a lower paying aircraft in my base, but my category shrunk. Under a normal AE, I would be displaced into that lower paying category. I would like that to happen since I live in base. Would the October AE treat me as a displaced pilot?
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