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09-17-2020, 09:58 AM

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D B Cooper

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Originally Posted by TED74

I don't believe it.

Studies have shown that humans don't multi-task. We actually just quickly toggle between multiple activities very rapidly.

Is that what I've been doing all this time? Toggling rapidly.

09-17-2020, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by WhiskeyDelta

I’m gonna go out on a limb and assume you aren’t on any Delta employee/non-rev FB pages nor on SkyHub. There’s almost a deity level of worship among a lot of our employees for Ed. #3 wouldn’t happen short of being forced out by the board or some other private ethical scandal.

...and you'd be correct sir. I'm NOT saying there is ANY chance of Ed being forced out. All I'm saying is that the pilot group shouldn't consider concessions until the execs give the billion dollars back to the company and Ed resigns.

09-17-2020, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by All 5 Stages

Looks like our CEO missed another meeting with the White House:

"Executives that attended the meeting included American Airlines CEO Doug Parker, United Airlines CEO Scott Kirby and Southwest Airlines CEO Gary Kelly."

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/17/airl...-recovery.html

A5S

Probably wasn’t invited. You turn down 1 invitation, you do t normally get another.

09-17-2020, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by All 5 Stages

He might be too busy making another social issues video.

09-17-2020, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by D B Cooper

Is that what I've been doing all this time? Toggling rapidly.

Not that there is anything wrong with that...

09-18-2020, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by theUpsideDown

Could i be conflating them? Been a while I'm working off memory. Thought it was ed.

No, I think it’s Doug at AA you’re thinking of, but I did fly with an FA that had Ed in first class last winter when he was going on vacation (out west, I think), and said he had many cocktails. It was hard to keep up.

Not that there’s anything wrong with that, as long as he didn’t get in a car and drive after the flight.

09-18-2020, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by AirbusPTC

I've been through this at other places where people think an exec resigning will open the door to a "labor friendly, treat the pilots like the skygods they are", type of manager. It won't. The next guy in, you'll hate just as much. Look at the business. Before corona, we were firing on all cylinders. I don't begrudge Ed. It's business for him and it's business for us. Don't let your emotions cloud that. As much as things suck now, I'd much rather have Ed driving the bus right now.

09-19-2020, 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by m3113n1a1

I think you're right. Delta thinks they can survive (and even thrive) without government money (although we'll need to furlough and right size) and government money will just artificially prop up the competition which Delta is hoping to be able to crush in the future. So I think there not being a CAREs 2 is actually better for Delta..just not for the pilots/employees in the short term.

I think you’re reading too much into it. If anyone is going to crush on the other side of the pandemic it’s Southwest, and Gary Kelly is in full support of a PSP clean extension. I guarantee that Delta will take the grant money again if offered. The tremendous amount of debt that Delta and everyone else has taken on still needs to be paid back.