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PilotBases 09-17-2020 02:34 PM


Originally Posted by DeadStick (Post 3130874)
Yikes. Tough crowd. Looks like 11226 most junior now. 9/11/2017 last class saved.

Any bit helps to chip away, hopefully the first AIP mentioned saves a chunk more, and let’s see beyond that too.

WhiskeyDelta 09-17-2020 02:37 PM


Originally Posted by DeadStick (Post 3130874)
Yikes. Tough crowd. Looks like 11226 most junior now. 9/11/2017 last class saved.


Yeah, baby steps here but I understand it’s frustrating for some. I hope the voluntary measures can save more which in turn could ease up company demands for an ALV cut to mitigate the rest.

Otto 09-17-2020 02:38 PM


Originally Posted by DeadStick (Post 3130874)
Yikes. Tough crowd. Looks like 11226 most junior now. 9/11/2017 last class saved.

Is this saying the 220 are saved now or only if the TA passes?

tennisguru 09-17-2020 02:43 PM


Originally Posted by Otto (Post 3130879)
Is this saying the 220 are saved now or only if the TA passes?

Technically the MEC would have to pass the TA next week but I just don't see them turning this down. Basically now Ed can say that they actually have tried all voluntary measures to prevent furloughs. Still negotiating the "big" deal that would prevent all furloughs.

WhiskeyDelta 09-17-2020 02:46 PM

The 220 are protected until at least Jan 1, 2021. MEC News email has a 2 paragraph blurb about this new deal.

TED74 09-17-2020 02:48 PM


Originally Posted by tennisguru (Post 3130881)
Basically now Ed can say that they actually have tried all voluntary measures to prevent furloughs.

Have you seen it? I'll be pleasantly surprised if all voluntary measures that mirror those at SWA show up in this deal.

WhiskeyDelta 09-17-2020 02:50 PM

Negotiations Update

The Delta MEC Negotiating Committee (NC) has reached a tentative agreement with the Company on LOA #20-03 Voluntary Scheduling Options. The agreement, if ratified, holds off 220 furloughs until at least January, 1 2021, and provides pilots in surplus categories with several new voluntary reduced value lines upon which to bid. It will be presented to the MEC next week at the Special MEC Meeting in Atlanta in open session. Following the presentation, the LOA will be posted to the Delta MEC website.

As stated in Delta town hall presentations, the Company approached the Negotiating Committee on Tuesday with an additional proposal. This new proposal would delay the remaining furloughs beyond October 1 in exchange for temporary modifications to the contract. The NC spent the week analyzing the proposal and will brief the MEC next week at the Special Meeting for their consideration.

LEROY JENKINS 09-17-2020 02:52 PM

Has anyone seen any data on the demographics of the 1721 now on the chopping block? Now that the MEC has confirmed it's looking at "at temporary modifications to the contract", I'd like to know more details on this group. How many are still in the Guard or Reserves? What's the age breakdown? How many have families? Now that the camel has a nose underneath the tent this is important information when considering any modification to the PWA.

TED74 09-17-2020 02:59 PM


Originally Posted by schwifty (Post 3130859)
Wonder what will happen for October. Not sure how they could put the 220 online without subverting seniority.

Do we have any active flyers who aren't UNA and can just be a full up round in October, despite not having bid? I'm not sure how the special reserve lines are created - random days where they are needed, or does the pilot have a say?

m3113n1a1 09-17-2020 02:59 PM


Originally Posted by LEROY JENKINS (Post 3130891)
Has anyone seen any data on the demographics of the 1721 now on the chopping block? Now that the MEC has confirmed it's looking at "at temporary modifications to the contract", I'd like to know more details on this group. How many are still in the Guard or Reserves? What's the age breakdown? How many have families? Now that the camel has a nose underneath the tent this is important information when considering any modification to the PWA.

No it isn't.


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