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Buck Rogers 09-17-2020 05:24 PM
Originally Posted by LEROY JENKINS (Post 3130891)
Has anyone seen any data on the demographics of the 1721 now on the chopping block? Now that the MEC has confirmed it's looking at "at temporary modifications to the contract", I'd like to know more details on this group. How many are still in the Guard or Reserves? What's the age breakdown? How many have families? Now that the camel has a nose underneath the tent this is important information when considering any modification to the PWA.
If this is important information, then I would guess we need to know if their spouse is gainfully employed, how much she makes, how much their savings are worth, do they have a trust fund... ... etc???

fishforfun 09-17-2020 05:27 PM
Originally Posted by Buck Rogers (Post 3130979)
If this is important information, then I would guess we need to know if their spouse is gainfully employed, how much she makes, how much their savings are worth, do they have a trust fund... ... etc???
Will also need to know what interest rate they have on their primary and secondary residence and what year their Miata is.

FangsF15 09-17-2020 05:28 PM
Originally Posted by Buck Rogers (Post 3130972)
Didnt the SWA pilots voluntarily take a ALV reduction to help save pilots? I think SWAPA did it outside of a company demand/ask?
I don’t think so, not for everyone anyway - i.e. Just the VEOP & Long-term SIL equivalents. My SWA Capt neighbor told me the company did that all on their own, and SWAPA found out when everyone else did.

DWC CAP10 USAF 09-17-2020 06:06 PM
Originally Posted by fishforfun (Post 3130981)
Will also need to know what interest rate they have on their primary and secondary residence and what year their Miata is.
Miatas...plural

weekendflyer 09-17-2020 06:10 PM
If the company decides to offer SILS, would they be available to pilots who are already on an unpaid leave?

3 green 09-17-2020 06:19 PM
They never needed to furlough those guys to begin with. They need them, it's all part of the negotiating tactics.

theUpsideDown 09-17-2020 06:55 PM
Just freaking furlough us or go away.

Next negotiating cycle negotiate i want contract language that all communication from the company has to come through the union first. I dont even want to know who is running the company anymore. If we wanna know what the company wants or thinks sailing fun will still be here to spread it around.

What the hell is Delta management doing? This 11th hour bs is enfuriating.

RAH RAH REE 09-17-2020 07:19 PM
1721 furloughs save about $765,00 per day. Which is about 2.8% of our current burn rate

beis77 09-17-2020 08:06 PM
Originally Posted by Drum (Post 3130855)
Need the pilots.
Probably for the holidays. Then we’re fat again until summer. That’s the way I interpreted the Jan 2021 cutoff.

beis77 09-17-2020 08:11 PM
Originally Posted by TED74 (Post 3130895)
Do we have any active flyers who aren't UNA and can just be a full up round in October, despite not having bid? I'm not sure how the special reserve lines are created - random days where they are needed, or does the pilot have a say?
I suspect it’s a similar process as those who return from leave too late to bid a line. This happened to me when returning from mil leave, and crew scheduling arbitrarily assigned me my reserve days. For those senior enough, I believe there’s leeway to move x days, and they said potential of a blank regular line. For those most junior (now 220), I think the reserve days will be at the whim of scheduling.


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