LOA #20-03 – Voluntary Scheduling Options
09-23-2020, 09:24 AM
#91
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Originally Posted by Banzai
I read this as not being additive. You get the greater of MBL OR accumulated pay and credit.
Reads like a RES guarantee where you are your own scheduler. Unless my reading comprehension is low.
Reads like a RES guarantee where you are your own scheduler. Unless my reading comprehension is low.
3. A pilot awarded an MBL will be paid the greater of
a. a twenty-five (25) hour line guarantee, or
b. the accumulated pay and credit for the month.
Note one: Any vacation and/or training during a bid period for which a pilot is awarded an MBL will be paid in addition to the pilot’s line guarantee (i.e., pay, no credit).
Note two: A pilot who has a rotation that begins in the bid period prior to an MBL, will be paid for the portion of the rotation that ends in the subsequent bid period in addition to the pilot’s line guarantee (i.e., pay, no credit).
I'm thinking my scenario applies. Month off with 25 hour guarantee + 2 weeks of VAC ~ 75 hours. (note 1)
Last edited by notEnuf; 09-23-2020 at 09:47 AM.
09-23-2020, 09:28 AM
#92
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Originally Posted by Herkflyr
You have to be intellectually honest to be taken seriously. You aren't. We don't have an "expired" contract, and we are not "continuing to fly an expired contract" out of any sense of altruism. If this were Ford or GM, then yes, we would have an expired contract, and we could strike immediately.
We have an "amendable" contract and we cannot strike, nor can mgmt lock us out, unless Big Daddy Gubmint allows us to, and that is only after a very long, torturous process that we haven't even started yet.
Let's get real. With Covid going on, we all will be happy to keep our "expired" contract as is. I won't even get into the discussion of how we didn't even present a comprehensive opener until the contract was nearly amendable, and how much of an ask it was.
Not drinking the koolaid. Just living in the real world.
We have an "amendable" contract and we cannot strike, nor can mgmt lock us out, unless Big Daddy Gubmint allows us to, and that is only after a very long, torturous process that we haven't even started yet.
Let's get real. With Covid going on, we all will be happy to keep our "expired" contract as is. I won't even get into the discussion of how we didn't even present a comprehensive opener until the contract was nearly amendable, and how much of an ask it was.
Not drinking the koolaid. Just living in the real world.
09-23-2020, 09:35 AM
#93
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Originally Posted by Tailhookah
You call it what you want herkboy and I understand the whole RLA so I don’t care for the lesson. We were snubbed by the most profitable airline at the end of our contract expiring. Just like milk. When it’s past the date stamped on the jug it’s called expired. You do you.
Last edited by notEnuf; 09-23-2020 at 10:05 AM.
09-23-2020, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by bronco21016
Am I missing /sarcasm?
We have that. I spent 2.5 years on reserve on the Mad Dog and always found it to be accurate and followed. I think the key is many do not put in the effort to wrap their head around the “Groups” so they decide its broken.
We have that. I spent 2.5 years on reserve on the Mad Dog and always found it to be accurate and followed. I think the key is many do not put in the effort to wrap their head around the “Groups” so they decide its broken.
09-23-2020, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by TED74
Yes. Total sarcasm. I'm glad you had good luck with it - I often have not. I am well versed in the coverage ladder and fully understand days of availability and RAW scores. But the current iteration doesn't have any 117 info, will list pilots who are actually sick as available, as well as pilots who are and have been NQ for no landing currency. Listing pilots who are not available for assignment... on the reserve availability list...is more problematic in this chaotic environment than it was before COVID. Delta knows it's broken but tells our DALPA scheduling experts to pound sand.
09-23-2020, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by TED74
Yes. Total sarcasm. I'm glad you had good luck with it - I often have not. I am well versed in the coverage ladder and fully understand days of availability and RAW scores. But the current iteration doesn't have any 117 info, will list pilots who are actually sick as available, as well as pilots who are and have been NQ for no landing currency. Listing pilots who are not available for assignment... on the reserve availability list...is more problematic in this chaotic environment than it was before COVID. Delta knows it's broken but tells our DALPA scheduling experts to pound sand.
09-23-2020, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Wolf424
30 day notice to rescind from either party if I read it correctly
09-23-2020, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
Well, he has a point. Given past practices the PWA is always amendable, we just choose to label it a MOU or LOA. Once we understand that section 6 never really ends, but is rather an end to pay increases, maybe we will wise up and put perpetual COLA language in place.
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