LOA #20-03 – Voluntary Scheduling Options - Page 30

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Herkflyr , 09-28-2020 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by boog123

You are saying a furloughed 220b pilot will affect the staffing level on 350A? Please, go on.

Two can play that game. Are you saying a junior 73NB taking an ULC (or extensive mil leave because he is no longer worried about USERRA limits) will force a 350A into egregiously more short calls?

#292

ERflyer , 09-28-2020 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by longcall

That and many other parts of the NN are complete nonsense. There is no limit on how many ULC's are awarded. The company could award enough to create staffing well below normal levels to save money. Normal reserves would pick up the slack on short calls and flying. It would be like summer staffing levels on steroids all year round. There is now way to know what staffing levels would be with SILs because they never were going to be used and aren't even an option any more. What do they have to do with this discussion?

This just about as absurd as their statement that: "However, based on participation in the voluntary measures available under LOA #20-03, those 220 pilots would remain active and pilots who are on furlough may return to active status sooner than they would have otherwise." How on earth can they make this claim? Nowhere in the agreement does it state that. That falls under that category of wishful thinking. The 220 will be out on the street before the programming is even done on these cost saving measures.

If this LOA saves the company more money than furloughing 220 pilots then they will keep them employed. Maybe more. If not they’ll furlough and we’ll cancel the LOA with 30 days notice. Doesn’t seem to be many risk takers on social media willing to give this LOA a shot even with the pull down provision. Many do seem to be just fine not thinking outside the box, letting other people get furloughed, and not giving the LOA (that we negotiated and asked for) a chance.

#293

captkdobbs , 09-28-2020 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by D B Cooper

What's Endeavor?

(as an alum I can say this TIC)
It's the definition of irony.

To go from the combination of:
Mesaba: from the Ojibwe language, misaabe: "Soaring Eagle"
Pinnacle: the highest point of development or achievement

To arrive at:
Endeavor:
(verb) try hard to do or achieve something.
(noun) an attempt to achieve a goal

#294

tennisguru , 09-28-2020 04:30 PM

Roll’n Thunder

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Originally Posted by captkdobbs

Yeah but what's a Colgan?

#295

longcall , 09-28-2020 05:09 PM

Line Holder

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Originally Posted by ERflyer

What makes you think they will keep anyone? If they were going to why wouldn't that be in the agreement?

#296

Gone Flying , 09-28-2020 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by longcall

What makes you think they will keep anyone? If they were going to why wouldn't that be in the agreement?

If they furlough, we pull down the LOA. If this saves more than furloughs, they won’t go down that road because they don’t want us to pull down the LOA

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theUpsideDown , 09-28-2020 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by tennisguru

Yeah but what's a Colgan?

Even the colgan guys try to forget about colgan.

#298

ERflyer , 09-28-2020 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by longcall

What makes you think they will keep anyone? If they were going to why wouldn't that be in the agreement?

It does until January 1. If it doesn’t save jobs after that it has a 30 day pull down. I don’t understand what the big deal is about giving it chance to see what the take is. It could save 500 jobs. If it saves zero then smoke it.

#299

HTBH , 09-28-2020 05:41 PM

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One thing I am curious about with the Continuous 12-Month Blank Line (CBL) provisions. Are those pilots required to maintain currency? If they sign up for the year "off", will they be going back for bounces every 90 days as well as their normal simulator even though they may opt to not fly at all?

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notEnuf , 09-28-2020 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ERflyer

How will we know it saves 500 or 220 or 1000 or all? What is to keep them from pocketing the savings and furloughing anyway? If it was 220 until pull down or X takers = Y furloughs canceled, then I'd be OK with it.