LOA #20-03 – Voluntary Scheduling Options
#282
Gets Weekends Off
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#284
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It doesn’t seem that the actual COO would also run flight ops but these are interesting times.
#286
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Joined APC: Apr 2016
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I just know Ed's memo started with "with Gil's departure" and the very next sentence is JL will become Chief of Ops, knowing that Gil was the COO, I just assumed Chief of Ops and COO were synonymous
Damn you 240!
#288
Roll’n Thunder
Joined APC: Oct 2009
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So for all you people afraid that these voluntary measures are going to force you to fly or sit SC more, that's going to happen no matter what. The company is going to right-size staffing either through voluntary measures or furloughs. From today's negotiators notepad:
Q: “Is this LOA going to allow people to sit at home while non-volunteers sit more short calls/fly more?”
A: No. The excess staffing that is allowing fewer-than-normal short calls is an artifact of excess staffing permitted by the CARES Act. If those restrictions are removed, it is likely that excess staffing levels will be reduced. Pilots will become unavailable, whether it's because of a blank line, ULC reserve, sick leave, or furlough. When that occurs, excess staffing will be eliminated, and staffing will normalize prompting a return to normal reserve and short call utilization rates. Additionally, if SILs were utilized, those pilots would also be unavailable for reserve and short call assignments causing the same result as the voluntary measures within this LOA.
Q: “Is this LOA going to allow people to sit at home while non-volunteers sit more short calls/fly more?”
A: No. The excess staffing that is allowing fewer-than-normal short calls is an artifact of excess staffing permitted by the CARES Act. If those restrictions are removed, it is likely that excess staffing levels will be reduced. Pilots will become unavailable, whether it's because of a blank line, ULC reserve, sick leave, or furlough. When that occurs, excess staffing will be eliminated, and staffing will normalize prompting a return to normal reserve and short call utilization rates. Additionally, if SILs were utilized, those pilots would also be unavailable for reserve and short call assignments causing the same result as the voluntary measures within this LOA.
#289
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2009
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So for all you people afraid that these voluntary measures are going to force you to fly or sit SC more, that's going to happen no matter what. The company is going to right-size staffing either through voluntary measures or furloughs. From today's negotiators notepad:
Q: “Is this LOA going to allow people to sit at home while non-volunteers sit more short calls/fly more?”
A: No. The excess staffing that is allowing fewer-than-normal short calls is an artifact of excess staffing permitted by the CARES Act. If those restrictions are removed, it is likely that excess staffing levels will be reduced. Pilots will become unavailable, whether it's because of a blank line, ULC reserve, sick leave, or furlough. When that occurs, excess staffing will be eliminated, and staffing will normalize prompting a return to normal reserve and short call utilization rates. Additionally, if SILs were utilized, those pilots would also be unavailable for reserve and short call assignments causing the same result as the voluntary measures within this LOA.
Q: “Is this LOA going to allow people to sit at home while non-volunteers sit more short calls/fly more?”
A: No. The excess staffing that is allowing fewer-than-normal short calls is an artifact of excess staffing permitted by the CARES Act. If those restrictions are removed, it is likely that excess staffing levels will be reduced. Pilots will become unavailable, whether it's because of a blank line, ULC reserve, sick leave, or furlough. When that occurs, excess staffing will be eliminated, and staffing will normalize prompting a return to normal reserve and short call utilization rates. Additionally, if SILs were utilized, those pilots would also be unavailable for reserve and short call assignments causing the same result as the voluntary measures within this LOA.
#290
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jul 2016
Posts: 95
So for all you people afraid that these voluntary measures are going to force you to fly or sit SC more, that's going to happen no matter what. The company is going to right-size staffing either through voluntary measures or furloughs. From today's negotiators notepad:
Q: “Is this LOA going to allow people to sit at home while non-volunteers sit more short calls/fly more?”
A: No. The excess staffing that is allowing fewer-than-normal short calls is an artifact of excess staffing permitted by the CARES Act. If those restrictions are removed, it is likely that excess staffing levels will be reduced. Pilots will become unavailable, whether it's because of a blank line, ULC reserve, sick leave, or furlough. When that occurs, excess staffing will be eliminated, and staffing will normalize prompting a return to normal reserve and short call utilization rates. Additionally, if SILs were utilized, those pilots would also be unavailable for reserve and short call assignments causing the same result as the voluntary measures within this LOA.
Q: “Is this LOA going to allow people to sit at home while non-volunteers sit more short calls/fly more?”
A: No. The excess staffing that is allowing fewer-than-normal short calls is an artifact of excess staffing permitted by the CARES Act. If those restrictions are removed, it is likely that excess staffing levels will be reduced. Pilots will become unavailable, whether it's because of a blank line, ULC reserve, sick leave, or furlough. When that occurs, excess staffing will be eliminated, and staffing will normalize prompting a return to normal reserve and short call utilization rates. Additionally, if SILs were utilized, those pilots would also be unavailable for reserve and short call assignments causing the same result as the voluntary measures within this LOA.
This just about as absurd as their statement that: "However, based on participation in the voluntary measures available under LOA #20-03, those 220 pilots would remain active and pilots who are on furlough may return to active status sooner than they would have otherwise." How on earth can they make this claim? Nowhere in the agreement does it state that. That falls under that category of wishful thinking. The 220 will be out on the street before the programming is even done on these cost saving measures.
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