LOA 20-04 MEC approves counter
11-14-2020, 06:54 AM
#771
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Originally Posted by Gone Flying
Honest question, were we doing this on any NB fleets pre COVID? Everyone in my NH class (everything from 7er to 717) got sims in ATL. I thought we were only outsourcing A330 training, which now might be even easier given AA parked their 330s leaving us one of only 2 us pax operator of the 330 (Hawaiian being the only other I know)
ive heard rumors Alaska might be winding down their airbus operations, if true, this might open up 320 sim time.
ive heard rumors Alaska might be winding down their airbus operations, if true, this might open up 320 sim time.
11-15-2020, 04:23 AM
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Originally Posted by DETSports
Any guesses on how many will be saved by 20-04, if any? The reduced TLV I would think would require more butts in seats.
11-15-2020, 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by DETSports
Any guesses on how many will be saved by 20-04, if any? The reduced TLV I would think would require more butts in seats.
Rough math. Say a 2% increase in Pilots with the lower TLV. 12,000 Pilots x .02 = 240 Pilots at most. This would be the case if the TLV was right at the maximum, if the TLV is not maxed out and until it is the difference will be somewhat lower all the way down to negligible.
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11-15-2020, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by DETSports
Any guesses on how many will be saved by 20-04, if any? The reduced TLV I would think would require more butts in seats.
So, personally, I don't think it'll save any of us 1721 in the near term. Retirements, the lower TLV, and summer 2022/23/24 needs are what will determine when we all come back.
11-15-2020, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
Then why not WARN the bottom 2000 pilots every month?
https://www.dol.gov/sites/dolgov/fil...erWARN2003.pdf
“The postponement is for 60 days or more, in which case you must receive a new WARN notice. Routine periodic notice, given whether or not a plant closing or mass layoff is impending, and with the intent to evade specific notice as required by WARN, is not acceptable.”
this is from the federal law, which requires 60 days notice. NY and a few other states require 90
11-15-2020, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by DETSports
Any guesses on how many will be saved by 20-04, if any? The reduced TLV I would think would require more butts in seats.
11-17-2020, 06:17 PM
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So I haven't seen a "Pro/Con" paper nor any opinions from the no-voters since this passed the MEC. Do those exist? With 20-03 LAX was Johnny on the spot putting out their side, so I'm a little surprised it's been so quiet this time around.
11-17-2020, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by PilotWombat
So I haven't seen a "Pro/Con" paper nor any opinions from the no-voters since this passed the MEC. Do those exist? With 20-03 LAX was Johnny on the spot putting out their side, so I'm a little surprised it's been so quiet this time around.
This doesn’t. This will pass easily. I am sure the union thinks that if they got 20-03 to pass at all, this one passes easily.
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