NeverFlexTO

I consulted a friend who is a chief of emergency medicine back where I grew up and my wife works in Medicine. She used to work in infectious disease with Ebola...I was strongly encouraged not to get the J&J due to the amount of preservatives in the vaccine, several websites say that there are no preservatives but that is false information when you look at individual ingredients it potential may seem that way but together it's not as ideal as the other two vaccines. This is the reason why they don't have to store it similar to Moderna and the Pfizer vaccine. It's efficacy is an issue as well. I also was a little concerned that J&J was a DNA vaccine vs an mRNA vaccine. IMHO something is better than nothing, the long term potential of issues due to contracting Covid are far more of an issue than what we know today about the vaccine. I ended up going the Pfizer route...

Breadcream

I’m fairly confident it’s not everyone.

It just seems that way because it’s cool to overreact to every tasty rumor that’s cooked up on this forum.

NeverFlexTO

Valid point...just seems to come up on every Town Hall on Skyhub or ALPA comm

tunes

Weird...on deltanet last night at the museum there were 20+ Pfizer appointments available for the next 10 days and this morning Pfizer isn’t showing up at all only j&j


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Speed Select

My preference was based on J&J being a more traditional vaccine: CV receptor on an adenovirus. My body knows what to do with that.

I really thought the mRNA aspect required the extreme refrigeration, not the lack of preservatives that are supposedly in J&J. As you stated, my understanding was that the ingredients weren’t too much different than other traditional vaccines.

Oh well, so much for doing my own research.

Flying Monkey

Look at Sweden’s per capita numbers vs US right now.

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Take a breath, dude.

DeltaboundRedux

FWIW, the "efficacy" of J&J vs. Moderna/Pfizer probably isn't what you think it is; it wasn't what I thought it was. You hear 95% efficacy for M/P, and "only" 65% for the J&J, and think "why would I bother with J&J?"

Turns out that's not what efficacy in this context means, at all. Very much an apples and oranges comparison: different trial groups for one, and crucially, the M/P trials were run at relatively low infection rates in the trials vs. the J&J which was run at some of the highest spikes in Covid infections. This matters because in a double blind test, a good portion of the test group is getting placebos; if they're in an area/point in time when the R value is low, the M/P vaccines look really good, but that might not be an accurate reading.

Bottom line though: J&J and the M/P have thus far been equally successful in preventing hospitalizations and/or deaths from the Covid strains they've been tested against. In other words, there is no difference between them all for that outcome, which is really all they're promising.

Vox (yuck, but even a broken clock...) had a great 6 min explanation of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3odScka55A

(Not advocating any of these, just addressing the efficacy issue. All 3 vaccines equally effectIVE, but that's different than trial efficACY.

ALSO: I see the US production of the J&J vaccine just had to throw out 15 million doses; the J&J that's thus far been used in the US was made in Europe. I doubt the J&J is going to be readily available anytime soon)

LandGreen2

After reading an exhaustive amount of “reports” and the pro/con for each type of jab; analysis paralysis set in.

Got a coin, best outta 5. JJ won 3-2 to Pfizer!

Breadcream

You bought a Bitcoin?? Nice. It’s a good idea to hedge against these outdated markets and currencies.

Seneca Pilot

It's no wonder we had a worse outcome than many other countries. The three biggest contributors to Covid death beyond age are weight, heart health, and diabetes. All three are a result of our terrible diet. In the US 40% of us are obese. In Japan it is 4%. But masks and lock downs are the key.