RiddleEagle18

So back on track here. Florida added 95k doses in arms over the last two days.

It’s significantly picking up steam.


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DeltaboundRedux

1.6 doses administered per 100 people as of yesterday.

That's dose 1 of 2 required. For perspective, this puts the US at the 4th rank from the top (Israel, UAE, Bahrain, then the US).

Still a long, long way to go, but it's not nothing.

Something like 70-80% of the population will need to be vaccinated before any herd immunity takes effect. As of now, however, the US appears to be administrating the vaccination better than any European or Asiatic nation.

It'll be interesting to see where the % stalls out due to production/distribution challenges, refusals to take the vaccine, etc.

BoilerUP

Consideration must be given to immunity obtained by previous infection.

Sure infection-conferred immunity is fleeting (6-9 months by most estimates) and those people will eventually need to be vaccinated, but it will still have a multiplying impact on vaccinations reducing vectors for spread in the near-to-medium term. Enough to achieve herd immunity? Likely not. Enough to begin seeing sizable reductions in confirmed positive cases even as vaccination scales up in the next month or two? Absolutely.

Today's CDC update shows 21.26M confirmed positive cases in the US. The CDC's estimate for actual infections is 8 for every confirmed positive case, which estimates actual SARS-CoV-2 infections at 170M people...more than half the US population. Even if we assume that estimate is overly high, we're still almost certainly at a third of the US population previously infected and that will absolutely help bring down infections (and corresponding hospital admissions, ICU admissions and death) much earlier than achieving a 70%+ vaccination rate.

sailingfun

I have not heard of anyone discussing the covid vaccination being forced on people against their will. It may be a employment requirement for obvious reasons but you will be able to opt out and pursue other employment if that happens. When you work for a international airline you have to meet foreign travel requirements or look for other options. RNA vaccines and corona virus vaccines have been in work far longer than one year. In fact corona virus vaccines have been in work for 20 years.

JamesBond

You have zero credibility if my being a Trump supporter makes me a racist. I don't GAF what you have to say after that.

JamesBond

not really. The idea started in the mid 90s, but it was in the early experimental stages at that point. Unless you have other information. I found some stuff from Duke, but nothing other than that. I wouldn't call that being 'in work'. And this one is unproven. As far as I can tell they aren't even saying it will prevent ChinaFlu.

Ragtop Day

Yup, definitely looks like it’s starting to roll out quickly. I just had a look at the CDC data, as of this morning about 21.4 million doses distributed with almost 6 million people getting the first stick. Figure that half the doses are being reserved for the second shot, that means a little over 10.5 million shots “available”. Distribution according to the CDC means shipped from the manufacturer, so a few days lag for transport, receiving, paperwork etc. In addition, states have 72 hrs to report vaccination numbers, so around 60% of available doses being reported as injected appears to be a pretty good rate if it keeps up.

sailingfun

https://elemental.medium.com/the-reason-we-dont-have-a-coronavirus-vaccine-16ec63524277

Here is a brief bit about why we have a vaccine today.”
In 2014, Dr. Peter Hotez of the School of Tropical Medicine at the Baylor College of Medicine and others wrote an article outlining the urgent need for a vaccine targeting the strains of coronavirus that cause SARS and MERS. At the time, Hotez argued that we not only faced obvious demand — as highlighted by two large coronavirus pandemics — but we also had the information necessary to begin developing vaccines. Researchers had already sequenced the coronavirus genome and gained a clear molecular understanding of how coronaviruses invade the human respiratory systems.
There are currently over four dozen different vaccines awaiting clinical trials. Nearly all of these vaccines rely on the molecular underpinnings that were discovered in the era of SARS and MERS.
The demand and the know-how were in place, but Hotez observed a waning interest in developing a coronavirus vaccine in the years that followed the MERS outbreak. Like many other researchers in this area, he watched funding and research for coronavirus vaccines fall as the outbreak subsided.”

The vaccines available were not cooked up in one year. The research goes back two decades.

Viking busdvr

Breaking News....Cigarette smoking is an addiction.... Smokers have no control to curb their use. Second-hand smoke kills millions per year if you believe the anti-smoking lobby.
can smokers get a mask that will allow them to smoke and comply with the mask mandate simultaneously??

Iceberg

Breaking news. This is an asinine argument.

A smoker made the decision to start smoking. Smokers have the option to quit smoking. Smoking has been litigated or regulated out of restaurants and schools and airplanes and most other public spaces so the threat of serious health consequences from second hand smoke has been greatly reduced. The requirement to wear masks is when you are nearby other individuals and could pass your potentially COVID loaded germs to someone else. If you have to smoke, move away from others and take the mask off. Problem solved.

The immediate health issues from a single smoke exposure and a single COVID exposure are far different. But you knew that.

Smoking and COVID are not the same thing no matter how much mental gymnastics you attempt.