Prepare Yourselves... 2021 AEs
03-06-2021, 02:52 AM
#1302
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Originally Posted by GucciBoy
Seven months, not nine. And the difference is five months if my calculator watch isn’t failing me.
Whoops. Math/research fail on my part. But I stand by the fact that it’s a risky move to wait unless you are very senior or want something that is very junior.
03-06-2021, 02:53 AM
#1303
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Joined APC: Feb 2016
Position: 737
Posts: 288
OE
Originally Posted by Gone Flying
Everyone hired 2/10 has not done IOE, not sure about the 2/3 class. When the Jan 2020 AE was cancelled, everyone in 2/10 or later lost their seat and got sent home from whatever phase of training they were in.
I think this number is ~250 pilots.
I think this number is ~250 pilots.
03-06-2021, 03:36 AM
#1304
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Originally Posted by bugman61
Whoops. Math/research fail on my part. But I stand by the fact that it’s a risky move to wait unless you are very senior or want something that is very junior.
03-06-2021, 07:44 AM
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Joined APC: Feb 2009
Position: Fetal
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Originally Posted by bugman61
Whoops. Math/research fail on my part. But I stand by the fact that it’s a risky move to wait unless you are very senior or want something that is very junior.
I agree. I just wanted to brag about my calculator watch.
03-06-2021, 07:54 AM
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Does anyone know the company’s outlook on PLOAs during “normal times”? In other words, if someone asked for a six month or one year PLOA in 2018 or 2019, would they have approved it?
I was told a long time ago that they don’t mind approving them because of the cost savings—letting a six-year FO (for example) off the books for a year saves money because they’ll likely fill that spot with someone junior and they can effectively make up for the loss through hiring/AE (again, assuming the hiring machine is running). But I have no idea if that’s accurate, and I never had a reason to care until now.
Trying to decide how long of a PLOA to ask for with this new AE—I may want to go longer than a year, but I’m not sure, and I’m wondering if I should ask now or wait until the one year is up.
I was told a long time ago that they don’t mind approving them because of the cost savings—letting a six-year FO (for example) off the books for a year saves money because they’ll likely fill that spot with someone junior and they can effectively make up for the loss through hiring/AE (again, assuming the hiring machine is running). But I have no idea if that’s accurate, and I never had a reason to care until now.
Trying to decide how long of a PLOA to ask for with this new AE—I may want to go longer than a year, but I’m not sure, and I’m wondering if I should ask now or wait until the one year is up.
03-06-2021, 07:55 AM
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Joined APC: May 2015
Position: A350 Both
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Originally Posted by gloopy
Impossible. Airlines only care about pilot ergonomics and climb rates, therefore we will be an all 320/757 fleet with maybe 787's because they look cool.
03-06-2021, 08:12 AM
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Joined APC: Jun 2019
Position: Currently freeloading
Posts: 524
Originally Posted by Jiggawatt
Does anyone know the company’s outlook on PLOAs during “normal times”? In other words, if someone asked for a six month or one year PLOA in 2018 or 2019, would they have approved it?
I was told a long time ago that they don’t mind approving them because of the cost savings—letting a six-year FO (for example) off the books for a year saves money because they’ll likely fill that spot with someone junior and they can effectively make up for the loss through hiring/AE (again, assuming the hiring machine is running). But I have no idea if that’s accurate, and I never had a reason to care until now.
Trying to decide how long of a PLOA to ask for with this new AE—I may want to go longer than a year, but I’m not sure, and I’m wondering if I should ask now or wait until the one year is up.
I was told a long time ago that they don’t mind approving them because of the cost savings—letting a six-year FO (for example) off the books for a year saves money because they’ll likely fill that spot with someone junior and they can effectively make up for the loss through hiring/AE (again, assuming the hiring machine is running). But I have no idea if that’s accurate, and I never had a reason to care until now.
Trying to decide how long of a PLOA to ask for with this new AE—I may want to go longer than a year, but I’m not sure, and I’m wondering if I should ask now or wait until the one year is up.
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