Prepare Yourselves... 2021 AEs
03-30-2021, 06:44 PM
#1701
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Originally Posted by dodgerk
Never been a commuter, but might be taking a shot at it on the next AE. Can someone give me a rundown about commuting before I dig into the details in the FOM?
- I know we have positive space now, but do we need a backup? If so, does the backup have to be Delta and does there need to be a certain amount of time between your primary flight and your backup?
- Once positive space ends, what is the original policy? Primary with a backup?
- Again, what is the policy regarding the airlines we plan to use as our primary and backups and time between them? If you miss your primary, are you required to let the company know you are using your backup?
- Is there a good place to see flight schedules of all airlines?
- Is there a preferred way to book jumpseats with other airlines?
If there is anything else you can share I would appreciate it! Thanks.
- I know we have positive space now, but do we need a backup? If so, does the backup have to be Delta and does there need to be a certain amount of time between your primary flight and your backup?
- Once positive space ends, what is the original policy? Primary with a backup?
- Again, what is the policy regarding the airlines we plan to use as our primary and backups and time between them? If you miss your primary, are you required to let the company know you are using your backup?
- Is there a good place to see flight schedules of all airlines?
- Is there a preferred way to book jumpseats with other airlines?
If there is anything else you can share I would appreciate it! Thanks.
OK, rant over. Just think about life as a local vs a potential commuter really hard. Life lesson over. Good luck. E
03-30-2021, 09:04 PM
#1702
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Originally Posted by Big E 757
For the love of everything holy, if you have the luxury, yes absolute, unadulterated luxury, of not having to commute, don’t do it by choice. I got hired at the only airline of the big 4 without a base in my home town (ORD/(MDW)). I planned on moving to ATL when I got off probation, but 9/11 hit and by the time I came back from furlough, I had met my wife (a local girl to my home town) and the rest, as they say, is history. I’d give my middle gonad, to not have to commute, As we’ve been told many times, commuting is a choice. One of the best lessons I learned from a craps dealer comes to mind....don’t bet too big early, wait for the game to come to you, and when it does jump on. Wait for the seat to come to you, and jump on.
OK, rant over. Just think about life as a local vs a potential commuter really hard. Life lesson over. Good luck. E
OK, rant over. Just think about life as a local vs a potential commuter really hard. Life lesson over. Good luck. E
03-30-2021, 09:20 PM
#1703
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Originally Posted by Trip7
Some ER Capts in ATL being making 50-60k a month since December. Nearly anyone that wants to create their own profit sharing payout will be able to this year
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03-31-2021, 03:31 AM
#1705
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Originally Posted by boog123
Seriously? Working more hours for extra pay vs lost time at home isn’t even in the same galaxy as profit sharing.
Point two. A few pilots playing the GS game don’t equate to everyone just raking it in. A kin to your stupid “million dollar” 350 A’s. Yeah, 4 or 5 pilots out of 14000, great point.
Point two. A few pilots playing the GS game don’t equate to everyone just raking it in. A kin to your stupid “million dollar” 350 A’s. Yeah, 4 or 5 pilots out of 14000, great point.
03-31-2021, 03:32 AM
#1706
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Originally Posted by dodgerk
Thanks for all the commuting advice. When we positive space commute, how do we book it? Company business or TravelNet or is there a different method? How far out can we book our commuter flights?
03-31-2021, 03:44 AM
#1707
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Do you have a source for no backup required if PS? I got a different answer last spring. I was told that nothing changed in the commuting policies other than the ability to book a seat PS.
03-31-2021, 05:13 AM
#1708
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Originally Posted by 20Fathoms
Nearly anyone? You do know we have guys in international categories right? Demand ain’t exactly booming there due to lockdowns, quarantines, etc. I’ve had exactly one GS I could have gotten in the last 3 years. Seeing my tired a€€ fumble around ARCOS was probably quite comical.
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03-31-2021, 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by HTBH
The Negotiators Notepad from November gave an answer on that, but I'm not sure if it is written anywhere more official:
Q: Are pilots required to have a backup flight to get to work?
A: A commung pilot under this LOA is not required to have a back-up flight. The posive space booking is deemed to sasfy any commuter policy requirements.
Q: Are pilots required to have a backup flight to get to work?
A: A commung pilot under this LOA is not required to have a back-up flight. The posive space booking is deemed to sasfy any commuter policy requirements.
03-31-2021, 05:25 AM
#1710
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Originally Posted by AlphaBeta
and I love those guys for doing it. I try to stay at home as much as possible because I love spending time with my kids. Never going to get that time back. Some people who are empty nesters or don’t have a family fly their butts off now to make extra coin while they can. But, I definitely agree with you, not remotely the same as profit sharing. I actually keep hearing this same thought on the line, make your own profit sharing. I just can’t justify being gone 20+ days a month
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